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Warren Commission Hearings: Vol. XV - Page 574« Previous | Next »

(Testimony of Billy A. Rea)

Mr. Rea.
I don't recall seeing him all that time. I don't know whether he was there or not.
Mr. Hubert.
What time do you think you got back from the room?
Mr. Rea.
It must have been around I o'clock or shortly after I o'clock.
Mr. Hubert.
Had you then heard anything about the shooting of Officer Tippit or of an officer?
Mr. Rea.
Oh, no, no.
Mr. Hubert.
When you came down-
Mr. Rea.
Well, I say--no--the original report was that three FBI men or a couple of Secret Service men had been shot also.
Mr. Hubert.
You figure that when you came down from the pressroom it was about 1 o'clock?
Mr. Rea.
Yes, within 5 or 10 minutes either way.
Mr. Hubert.
Then, you came down to the second floor?
Mr. Rea.
Yes.
Mr. Hubert.
Is that the first time you saw Ruby ?
Mr. Rea.
Yes.
Mr. Hubert.
Where was he then?
Mr. Rea.
He was at Don Campbell's desk--that's where he was. He was sitting there in Don Campbell's chair which was directly in front of John Newnam's desk, not Georgia Mayor's.
Mr. Hubert.
What was he doing?
Mr. Rea.
Sitting there Just sitting there.
Mr. Hubert.
Did he speak to you?
Mr. Rea.
No.
Mr. Hubert.
Or you to him?
Mr. Rea.
No.
Mr. Hubert.
You had known the man, hadn't you ?
Mr. Rea.
Oh, yes, I knew him--not personally.
Mr. Hubert.
Was Newnam there with him?
Mr. Rea.
No.
Mr. Hubert.
He was alone ?
Mr. Rea.
He was alone.
Mr. Hubert.
Was Saunders there?
Mr. Rea.
I don't recall whether Saunders was there or not. I don't remember. He could have been--I don't remember. I can't specifically identify him as being there. He could have been, but you know, confusion reigned, but I do definitely remember him sitting in that chair.
Mr. Hubert.
I'm going to show you a chart which has been marked as Exhibit No. 4 of the deposition of John Newnam. It is a chart drawn by Mr. Newnam and I ask you to see if you can recognize it. Here is Young Street and here is Houston Street, and it purports to be the second floor ?
Mr. Rea.
Yes.
Mr. Hubert.
This is the promotion department over on the right-hand side?
Mr. Rea.
Yes.
Mr. Hubert.
Over in this corner is Mr. Jeffery's office?
Mr. Rea.
Correct.
Mr. Hubert.
This desk No. 1 is his desk and this little dot with a circle is a

TV set in his office?
Mr. Rea.
Yes.
Mr. Hubert.
Now, you will notice that the retail advertising department

is about the middle of the page and that each desk is numbered?
Mr. Rea.
Yes, sir.
Mr. Hubert.
Can you tell us where you first saw Ruby--at what desk?
Mr. Rea.
Right here (indicating on Exhibit No. 4).
Mr. Hubert.
You are making a little "X" mark there between desks 23 and 23, right?
Mr. Rea.
Yes, sir.
Mr. Hubert.
I'm going to mark it "Position of Ruby When First Seen By Rea," is that right?
Mr. Rea.
That's correct.
Mr. Hubert.
And he was sitting or standing?
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