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Warren Commission Hearings: Vol. XIII - Page 400« Previous | Next »

(Testimony of Mrs. Bertha Cheek)

Mr. Griffin.
What kind of man did he seem like?
Mrs. Cheek.
He seemed like a, well, he was kind of a nervous person, but you wouldn't have thought that he would murder anyone. He jr, st walked around you know, but, I am a nervous person myself.
Mr. Griffin.
Was he able to keep the conversation going in the same general direction? Was he flighty?
Mrs. Cheek.
Kind of flighty; yes.
Mr. Griffin.
How did he act?
Mrs. Cheek.
Well, he didn't know his location. And I told him it seemed to me that it was funny why he would try to get $6,000 out of me, not knowing, I wouldn't know the location, I wouldn't know anything about the business or anything.
He couldn't tell me anything about that, and I didn't understand why he would call me down and try to convince me he was a good man and talking for this Frank, too, and not having the location, couldn't show me what I was buying. And I told him I usually see the things that I buy or know something about it. I don't buy anything unless I can see it and look at it.
Mr. Griffin.
Did you get the idea that this Frank was----
Mrs. Cheek.
He is an older fellow.
Mr. Griffin.
How old a man did he appear to be?
Mrs. Cheek.
I would say he was up around 66 years old. He was gray-headed.
Mr. Griffin.
About how tall was he?
Mrs. Cheek.
He was a little taller than I was. About five seven, I guess.
Mr. Griffin.
But not a tall man?
Mrs. Cheek.
No.
Mr. Griffin.
How about his weight? Appear to be heavy?
Mrs. Cheek.
I don't remember how much the man weighed, about 165 or 160, maybe not that much.
Mr. Griffin.
Did he appear to be a fat man?
Mrs. Cheek.
No.
Mr. Griffin.
Medium-built, would you say, or skinny?
Mrs. Cheek.
He wasn't skinny, I don't think. I didn't look at the man really that much.
Mr. Griffin.
Do you recall if he wore glasses?
Mrs. Cheek.
I don't know whether he did or not. I don't think he did.
Mr. Griffin.
Did you learn anything about where he lived?
Mrs. Cheek.
No.
Mr. Griffin.
Did Jack Ruby indicate that somebody else besides Fisher and he were interested in this new nightclub?
Mrs. Cheek.
Who?
Mr. Griffin.
Or Frank, whatever his name is?
Mrs. Cheek.
I didn't understand that Frank was going in on it. He was going to decorate it for Jack Ruby.
Mr. Griffin.
Did Jack indicate there was somebody else interested besides him?
Mrs. Cheek.
Just himself.
Mr. Griffin.
You must have been quite annoyed with him when he wouldn't tell you where it would be and wouldn't give you the details?
Mrs. Cheek.
Well, I just told him I couldn't make an investment that I didn't know about.
Mr. Griffin.
Did he describe how big it was going to be? How many seats?
Mrs. Cheek.
No, he didn't. He might have, but I don't remember the exact seating.
Mr. Griffin.
Then you can't tell us anything that you recall about that conversation other than what you have told us so far?
Mrs. Cheek.
That is all I remember.
Mr. Griffin.
Okay. Now, have you read through this interview report?
Mrs. Cheek.
I don't have glasses, and I can't see too well today. I don't have my glasses with me.
Mr. Griffin.
Well, would you like me to read it out?
Mrs. Creek.
You can read it to me.
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