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Warren Commission Hearings: Vol. XII - Page 98« Previous | Next »

(Testimony of M. W. Stevenson)

Mr. Stevenson.
camera sitting back in the alcove as you go into the double doors into the Police and Courts Building of the basement.
Mr. Hubert.
Is that the basement side of those double doors, or on the jail side ?
Mr. Stevenson.
That was just outside the jail windows after you get through the double doors from inside the Police and Courts Building. It was sitting outside the doors in the part of what is a part of the basement.
Mr. Hubert.
I see.
Mr. Stevenson.
He instructed that the camera would have to be moved and moved across the driveway into the parking area proper. He also instructed at that time, I believe it was at that time, that the two cars that were parked, I would say it was a squad car and a plain car, in spaces one and two, as I will refer to them, were directly across from the door leading out of the basement, that they would be moved and those spaces left unoccupied, no cars would be parked in there.
Mr. Hubert.
Chief Stevenson, I have before me the chart of the basement area including the jail office and parking area and the ramps and so forth. I am going to date it, and I am doing so now, "Dallas, Tex., March 23, 1964, as Exhibit 5050," in the deposition of Chief M. W. Stevenson. I am signing it with my own name, and I am going to ask you to sign it just below mine, because in your testimony from now on out, I am going to ask you to refer to this chart and put certain positions down on it.

Now, when you mentioned just now, a moment ago when you said that Chief Curry asked that two cars in spots one and two be moved off, would you indicate on Exhibit 5050 by putting "Spot 1," and "Spot 2," what cars he was talking about?
(Writing on chart. )
Mr. Stevenson.
Right here.
Mr. Hubert.
Just put "Spot," so we will know. "Spot 1," and "Spot 2." All right, was that done? Were the cars moved?
Mr. Stevenson.
Yes, sir; they were moved from those two parking spaces.
Mr. Hubert.
What happened next?
Mr. Stevenson.
At that time we all returned back up to the third floor. That was approximately, I would say, 8:40 or 8:45.
Mr. Hubert.
That would be you and Captain Batchelor?
Mr. Stevenson.
That would be me and Assistant Chief Batchelor and Chief Curry.
Mr. Hubert.
All right.
Mr. Stevenson.
We went back upstairs, and I would say 30 minutes later, or approximately 9 or 9:15, Chief Curry and Chief Batchelor had discussed the possibility of moving the prisoner in an armored car due to some threats--incidentally, I have to drop back a little. Chief Batchelor notified me, when I met him down there that morning, that Captain Frazier, I believe it was, had called him at home and told him that the FBI had called up with some information that, I won't say how many, but a group of people were going to take Oswald away from the officers on the transfer.
Mr. Hubert.
Did Captain Frazier tell you ?
Mr. Stevenson.
No; he called Chief Batchelor, and he told me that Captain Frazier had called him.
Mr. Hubert.
Told him there had been a message received from the FBI that someone had called the FBI ?
Mr. Stevenson.
Yes.
Mr. Hubert.
Stating that there would be an effort made; is that correct?
Mr. Stevenson.
Right.
Mr. Hubert.
Did Captain Batchelor indicate to you at that time whether the FBI knew who had made this call?
Mr. Stevenson.
No, sir; he did not.
Mr. Hubert.
Did he indicate to you that it was an anonymous call?
Mr. Stevenson.
I believe, as I remember, he did say that the message that he got was that an anonymous caller had notified the FBI.
Mr. Hubert.
All right; go ahead with it then.
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