Were there any vacant seats when you got on?
Miss MUMFORD. Quite a few people boarded in Monterrey. And we were a bit frightened that we wouldn't get a seat together. But I think we were one of the few people who got on first.

Mr. Ball.

What part of the bus did you sit in?
Miss MUMFORD. In the middle of the bus. more towards the back than the front.

Mr. Ball.

Did the English man ever come back while you were being seated and speak in Spanish to any of the Mexican people?
Miss MUMFORD. No.

Mr. Ball.

You don't recall that the English man ever came back and asked the Mexican people to make room for you to sit down?
Miss MUMFORD. No.

Mr. Ball.

At the bus stops. you say, you did not talk to Oswald?
Miss MUMFORD. No. He was the first off the bus and the last back on. He had a meal at every bus stop.

Mr. Ball.

Oh, he did?
Miss MUMFORD. Yes.

Mr. Ball.

He ate at every bus stop?
Miss MUMFORD. Yes. I never saw him ordering. I took it that he didn't speak the language, but he always managed to order himself a large meal, because he never seemed to get it over to them what he wanted.

Mr. Ball.

What gave you the impression that he did not speak the language?
Miss MUMFORD. Well, simply that on arriving on the bus he told us--when we had boarded the bus he had told us that he had turned to the English gentleman and asked "I wonder how you say 'Can I help you in Spanish."

Mr. Ball.

You told him when he came back to talk to you that you had had friend travel in Russia?
Miss MUMFORD. Yes.

Mr. Ball.

And you say you had mentioned her experiences. What did you tell him about that?
Miss MUMFORD. Well, we said that she had come back and told us that Moscow was a beautiful city and she had gathered the impression that they were being taken on a tour and shown only what they wanted to be shown.
She, being a school teacher, asked a lot of questions of their female guide. and the questions just were evaded or not answered.
And she said she got the impression that she was told to say certain things and nothing else.

Mr. Ball.

Did Oswald make any remark to that?
Miss MUMFORD. No; the only remark he made on his life in Moscow was that he had had a lot of trouble getting out. That's all he said.

Mr. Ball.

Did he make any statement at all concerning his life in the Soviet Union; whether he had enjoyed the stay there or not?
Miss MUMFORD. No; he gave me the impression that he was the average, normal American citizen who had gone over there and had wanted to get out and couldn't get out for some red tape reasons.

Mr. Ball.

Did he say anything or make any mention of politics?
Miss MUMFORD. No; never.

Mr. Ball.

Did he mention anything about communism, socialism, or anything of that sort?
Miss MUMFORD. No; he never said anything about his political views or even mention politics at all.

Mr. Ball.

You did see his passport, though?
Miss MUMFORD. Yes.

Mr. Ball.

How did he happen to show you this passport?
Miss MUMFORD. Well, I think it was rather to prove that he had been in Russia. I think he was trying to find places that we hadn't been that he had, and he just--in fact, he left us at the seat to go up and take his passport from his traveling bag and bring it down to show us.

Mr. Ball.

Had he told you his name before that?
Miss MUMFORD. He never mentioned his name once.

Mr. Ball.

He never did?

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