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Warren Commission Hearings: Vol. I - Page 395« Previous | Next »

(Testimony of Robert Edward Oswald Lee Resumed)

Mr. Oswald.
Well, to me, sir, he had become or appeared to become more drawn into himself to the extent that I noticed that he wanted to read more, and of course when he wanted to read he wanted to be by himself. However, to me personally at that time when we were together, if he did not wish to read, he seemed and appeared to be as he was prior to 1952, sir.
Mr. Jenner.
Did that state of mind or his action, did you notice that that persisted when he returned from Russia?
Was he still of that retiring nature?
Mr. Oswald.
No, sir; he was not. I felt that he was more of a gregarious type person that wanted to mix with people and wanted to talk to people.
Mr. Jenner.
After he left your home and took residence with your mother and thereafter in various places in Fort Worth, did he seek you out?
Mr. Oswald.
Yes, sir. He called me on a number of occasions at my office.
Mr. Jenner.
Did he come by your home and visit you voluntarily without invitation?
Mr. Oswald.
I do not recall of any time, sir. I usually was talking to him on the telephone quite frequently during the period that he had moved out of my mother's apartment into their own duplex, to the extent that I always told him that if he would like to come out any time just to give me a ring and I would gladly pick them up and bring them out to the house and return them to their home.
Mr. Jenner.
Did he do so?
Mr. Oswald.
No, sir; he did not.
Mr. Dulles.
There has been some testimony here before the Commission to the general effect that in the latter period he broke pretty much away with some of the Russian group of friends in Dallas that Marina had developed or liked to be with, and that is because she could talk Russian. Did you see anything of that, and can you throw any further light on that?
Mr. Oswald.
No, sir; I did not. I was aware or had become aware of this group or some other group of the Russian-speaking population in Dallas, and I was aware of Mr. Gregory in Fort Worth, Tex., who had come to my house before Lee and Marina had moved out, to speak in the Russian language to Marina and to Lee. I was not aware that--I was aware that he was talking with and becoming acquainted with this group of persons, and I was not aware of the fact that he was withdrawing from this group of people.
Mr. Dulles.
Did you know anything about his relations with a certain man named De Mohrenschildt?
Mr. Oswald.
No, sir; I did not.
Mr. Jenner.
Is the name familiar to you?
Mr. Oswald.
No, sir; it is not.
Mr. Mckenzie.
Off the record.
(Discussion off the record.)
Mr. Mckenzie.
Mr. Dulles, who is the Chairman of the session today, has asked Mr. Oswald if he knows or has heard of a man by the name of De Mohrenschildt. Robert Oswald's answer I believe is reflected on the record that he did not know Mr. De Mohrenschildt. I have stated off the record to Mr. Dulles and to Mr. Jenner that I know George De Mohrenschildt.
I became acquainted with George De Mohrenschildt in this manner. Shortly after the law was passed in Texas that we could have women jurors----
Mr. Jenner.
Could you fix that time?
Mr. Mckenzie.
No, I cannot, but it has been within the last five years. I would say. But shortly after the law was passed that we could have women jurors sitting in our courts, my wife happened to be on a jury in Dallas, Texas, in one of our district courts. Sitting on that same jury with my wife, Sally McKenzie was a man by the name of George De Mohrenschildt. As a result of her jury experience in the trial of this case, in which he was a juror, I met George De Mohrenschildt. I have since come to know him briefly, and in no way intimately.
George De Mohrenschildt at one time was married to a lady from Pennsylvania by the name of Wynne Sharples. They were subsequently divorced in Dallas. Wynne Sharples is an M.D. by profession. She comes from a well-known
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