Mr. Oswald.

Yes, sir. Since Lee's death on November 24th, I have formed an opinion in that respect.

Mr. Jenner.

What is that opinion?

Mr. Oswald.

That, perhaps in sheer speculation on my part--that due to the nature of the change in his hair, in the baldness that appeared, I reached the opinion that perhaps something in the nature of shock treatments or something along that line had been given him in Russia.

Mr. Jenner.

You base this opinion on any factors other than or in addition to this change of physical appearance that you noted on his return from Russia?

Mr. Oswald.

No, sir; I do not.

Mr. Jenner.

Has the course of events affected the opinion you have now expressed?

Mr. Oswald.

Yes, sir; since the course of events, since Friday, November 22, 1963, his death following on the 24th of November 1963, I have searched my own mind for possible reasons of why or how this all came about. That has been one of my opinions--in reference to his hair structure and so forth, and his baldness-- pardon me just a minute, please.

Mr. Jenner.

Have you concluded your answer?

Mr. Oswald.

Yes, thank you.

Mr. Jenner.

Has this course of events and your brother's physical appearance and any other factors you had in mind led you to form an opinion as to whether he was or had been an agent of the government of the USSR?

Mr. Mckenzie.

You are asking him, Mr. Jenner, to speculate.

Mr. Jenner.

I am.

Mr. Oswald.

May I have that again, please?

Mr. Mckenzie.

His question was--this is off the record.
(Discussion off the record.)

Mr. Oswald.

No, sir.

Mr. Mckenzie.

Mr. Jenner, may I ask a question at this time?
Robert, at any time after your brother returned from Russia, or at any time after he went to Russia, did he ever remark to you as to whether or not he had been ill while in Russia?

Mr. Oswald.

No, sir; he did not.

Mr. Mckenzie.

Has his wife, Marina Oswald, ever said anything to you about whether or not he was ill while he resided in Russia?

Mr. Oswald.

Yes, sir; she has.

Mr. Mckenzie.

And what did she say?

Mr. Jenner.

Could you fix the time, please?

Mr. Oswald.

My conversation with Marina Oswald?

Mr. Jenner.

Yes.

Mr. Oswald.

Approximately 4 weeks ago, in one of our conversations.

Mr. Jenner.

And where did that take place?

Mr. Oswald.

I believe in my car on the way to the cemetery, or returning from the cemetery, to Mr. Martin's house, in Dallas, Tex.

Mr. Jenner.

Anyone other than Marina and yourself present?

Mr. Oswald.

No, sir.

Mr. Jenner.

All right. State the conversation.

Mr. Oswald.

If I may fix the date more accurately here, sir; if I could possibly refer to my diary. I recall this conversation on January 13, 1964, between Marina Oswald and myself in my car, at which time she stated to me----

Mr. Jenner.

Excuse me, sir, to what are you now referring to refresh your recollection?

Mr. Oswald.

This would be to a followup of the conversation we had in reference to----

Mr. Jenner.

Excuse me--the document.

Mr. Oswald.

I am referring to my notebook that I have been keeping in various events that have occurred since November 22, 1963.

Mr. Jenner.

For the purpose of the record, would you read the first three words and the last three words of the page to which you are making reference?

Mr. Oswald.

"Sunday, January 13, 1964. Jim advised that"----

Mr. Jenner.

That is on the first line?