Mr. Mamantov.

was very shy and didn't talk very much. Most of the evening was spent conversing with Oswald on political questions, because he understood.

Mr. Jenner.

This was the report they made to you?

Mr. Mamantov.

That's correct.

Mr. Jenner.

In the questioning by the Federal Bureau of Investigation, you mentioned either a Mr. Clark or a Mrs. Clark.

Mr. Mamantov.

Yes, those people from Fort Worth.

Mr. Jenner.

What are their names--do you remember a given name?

Mr. Mamantov.

No, I don't remember, but he is a lawyer and his wife, she is a Russian from France. He married her, I think, during the American occupation of Europe.

Mr. Jenner.

By the way, Mr. Gregory is a native-born Russian?

Mr. Mamantov.

Yes, he is Grigor'er. He has changed his name---it isn't his original name.

Mr. Jenner.

Originally, it was Gregoria and he changed it to Gregory, spelled G-r-i-g-o-r'e-r [spelling]?

Mr. Mamantov.

It could be he spelled it also with an "e", but that's originally his name.

Mr. Jenner.

He is a petroleum consultant of some type?

Mr. Mamantov.

Petroleum engineer---correct.

Mr. Jenner.

Is he part Russian--part of the Russian emigre group here in the Dallas-Fort Worth area?

Mr. Mamantov.

That's right. You see, we are not meeting with them for quite a while as a group. We broke away, but individually, I have been with Gregorys on a few occasions--I have been with the Clarks on few occasions together. I have been with Mr. Bouhe quite frequently in the past--whom else the same I know them very well personally but we didn't meet--we don't meet as a group any more.

Mr. Jenner.

Mr. Mamantov, do you have anything that occurs to you that you think I would like to add to the record that you think might be helpful to the Presidential investigation of the assassination of President Kennedy, in connection with its work in investigating the assassination of President John F. Kennedy; if so, would you please state what you have in mind?

Mr. Mamantov.

I have grave doubts of Marina's exit of the Soviet Union so easily. Of course, I don't have any proof one way or the other--but knowing her life from what I translated, I have more doubt of her arrangement--how the woman could come out so easy from the Soviet Union, because if I liked to get--if I would have liked to take some of my family out it would take for me years and thousands of dollars to get my closest relative out of the Soviet Union. Besides, she should be old, practically as a laborer help not useful to the Soviet Union, and here, a young lady---20 or 21, just married an American citizen came out and--but I don't want to accuse her--maybe she's completely innocent. I know other cases where people would use all possible means to get out of the Soviet Union. Maybe this is the case, but there is still in my mind quite a doubt of her coming out so easy.

Mr. Jenner.

Is there anything else you want to add?

Mr. Mamantov.

No, not on this particular case, I think that's everything.

Mr. Jenner.

Now, we have had some off the record discussions and I had a short talk with you before we began this deposition.

Mr. Mamantov.

Right.

Mr. Jenner.

Is there anything that occurred during the course of our off the record discussions or preliminary talks before the deposition, that you think is pertinent here that I have failed to bring out?

Mr. Mamantov.

No, I think you brought out everything that I think of.

Mr. Jenner.

Was there anything you said to me in the off-the-record discussions or the preliminary discussions which, in your opinion, is inconsistent with any testimony that you have given on the record?

Mr. Mamantov.

No, I don't think it is.

Mr. Jenner.

And, as you sit there, do you have any feeling that at any time, on or off the record, that I directly or indirectly sought to influence you in any statements you might have made?

Mr. Mamantov.

No, sir.