Mr. Jenner.

Were you and your family aware of Bouhe's efforts, if they were efforts, to collect clothing and otherwise be helpful to the Oswalds?

Mr. Mamantov.

That's correct.

Mr. Jenner.

You were aware of that?

Mr. Mamantov.

Right.

Mr. Jenner.

And was that in your opinion a good faith, charitable impulse on his part?

Mr. Mamantov.

No, sir.

Mr. Jenner.

You think it might have been ulterior?

Mr. Mamantov.

We objected immediately when we heard about this. We objected to every person who took Marina in their own house, in trying to collect money and clothing, and this supposedly happened after her husband beat her up.

Mr. Jenner.

When there went through the Russian community a report that Lee Oswald had inflicted physical violence on Marina, then the community objected to assistance being afforded the Oswalds?

Mr. Mamantov.

I don't know--I think they were especially helping her, after they left Fort Worth, and they had domestic disagreements. Supposedly, she was attacked by him--then the Russian community here in Dallas tried to help her by taking her into the houses or collecting money and collecting clothing and stuff like that, so I opposed this more and more violently.

Mr. Jenner.

But you do know that the Russian community, as such, of which Mr. Bouhe was a member, was seeking to assist her?

Mr. Mamantov.

Correct.

Mr. Jenner.

By collecting clothing?

Mr. Mamantov.

Right.

Mr. Jenner.

Gathering money and taking her into their homes on occasions?

Mr. Mamantov.

That's right--assigning for certain families to keep for a couple of weeks or a week.

Mr. Jenner.

That included Mrs. Meller?

Mr. Mamantov.

That included Mrs. Meller, Fords, and he tried to get this person---

Mr. Jenner.

When you say "he" you mean Mr. Bouhe?

Mr. Mamantov.

Mr. Bouhe.

Mr. Jenner.

He tried to place her with whom--Mrs. Grolle?

Mr. Mamantov.

Yes; she's an elderly person and lives by herself and had a few rooms for rent and as far as I know, she didn't take her into her home.

Mr. Jenner.

Well, we have no information that she did.

Mr. Mamantov.

As far as I know, I don't think that she did, but I don't think that she did, but Mellers and the Fords took her for a week or for 2 weeks.

Mr. Jenner.

Have you ever heard of a Mrs. Elena Hall?

Mr. Mamantov.

Elena Hall--how do you spell it?

Mr. Jenner.

H-a-l-l [spelling], E-l-e-n-a [spelling].

Mr. Mamantov.

No; the first name--Elena Hall?

Mr. Jenner.

Yes.

Mr. Mamantov.

No, sir; you see, we have a secretary, Helene, H-e-l-e-n-e [spelling] Hall, which couldn't be that person.

Mr. Jenner.

No, that's a different person.

Mr. Mamantov.

Yes.

Mr. Jenner.

Paul Gregory or Peter Gregory?

Mr. Mamantov.

Yes, sir; father, I think, is Peter.

Mr. Jenner.

You mean one is the father and one is son?

Mr. Mamantov.

One is father's name and one is son's name---that's correct, but his father is not living. Do you know how Russians call your name--if I would refer to you, it is your name first and your father's name second, instead of saying Mr. so and so, so that's how it appears.

Mr. Jenner.

What do they say in case since my name and my father's name are the same?

Mr. Mamantov.

The same---it would be, if you are, for instance, Oswald, it would be Oswald Oswald, each ending implies you are a son of Oswald.

Mr. Jenner.

You have already mentioned Volkmar Schmidt.

Mr. Mamantov.

Right.