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Warren Commission Hearings: Vol. IX - Page 112« Previous | Next »

(Testimony of Ilya A. Mamantov)

Mr. Mamantov.
elongated form and for some reason she opened it and saw a gun, and knowing it was Lee's, at least a gun, and he didn't want her to touch his things, he was very particular, and after she opened a corner, she left it in same shape she had found it.
Mr. Jenner.
Did she say whether she had pulled the gun entirely out of the package?
Mr. Mamantov.
No. No.
Mr. Jenner.
Just the butt end?
Mr. Mamantov.
Just the stock end and she covered immediately and back so as a result, she--she didn't pull out all--she didn't open the package.
Mr. Jenner.
Did they question her as to where the package was in the garage, precisely, on the two occasions, that is, when she had seen it before November 22 and the position it was located in in the garage when she saw it on November 22?
Mr. Mamantov.
The question was asked and she answered, it was with her belongings which she couldn't bring into Mrs. Paine's home, and if I remember right, she said it was in one corner of the garage, and that particular day the blanket was in the same area, but was in a different shape or in a different condition. What it was, I don't know. It was in the garage in one of the corners.
Mr. Jenner.
What did she say as to the difference and the content?
Mr. Mamantov.
She said when she saw the blanket it didn't contain the gun.
Mr. Jenner.
It did not contain the gun?
Mr. Mamantov.
It did not contain the gun.
Mr. Jenner.
Did she say anything about whether the blanket's form or condition was, for purposes of illustration not for the purpose of placing words in your mouth, that the blanket was absolutely flat when she saw it on the 22d, whereas, prior thereto it appeared to contain what she discovered was a rifle?
Mr. Mamantov.
I don't remember.
Mr. Jenner.
Did she say anything about whether the package, the blanket package, was wrapped in any fashion, with string or any other wrapping of that character?
Mr. Mamantov.
I don't remember.
Mr. Jenner.
Was that subject brought up?
Mr. Mamantov.
I don't remember.
Mr. Jenner.
At any time during the questioning was the blanket package brought into the room?
Mr. Mamantov.
No, sir.
Mr. Jenner.
Was anything said when she was asked about her entry into the garage and her examination of the package as to whether anybody was with her when she did that?
Mr. Mamantov.
I think--was police and Mrs. Paine.
Mr. Jenner.
At the time that she examined the blanket?
Mr. Mamantov.
Once for sure I don't know what happened before that.
Mr. Jenner.
Was she asked whether she had examined the blanket that day at any time prior to her examination of the blanket in the presence of Mrs. Paine and the police?
Mr. Mamantov.
I don't remember.
Mr. Jenner.
But you do recall that she did testify or relate as to the incident you now have in mind that Mrs. Paine was present and the police were present?
Mr. Mamantov.
On one occasion; yes.
Mr. Jenner.
And is that the only occasion she was examined about, that is, her having entered the garage once and then only in the presence of the police?
Mr. Mamantov.
This, I don't know for sure.
Mr. Jenner.
It might have been that she testified to having gone to the garage on two occasions that day.
Mr. Mamantov.
Sir, I don't remember for sure. I rather wouldn't like, as you say, to interpret--I would be very happy to relate everything I know. If you don't remember, you don't.
Mr. Jenner.
May I emphasize over and over again, Mr. Mamantov, that you don't tell or say anything other than that which you recall in your mind took place around 6 o'clock on the 22nd.
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