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Warren Commission Hearings: Vol. VIII - Page 355« Previous | Next »

(Testimony of Max E. Clark)

Mr. Clark.
had lived in the States the longest period of time and couldn't be considered as "DP's" were less concerned about it than those recent arrivals from Soviet blocs; the ones that were "DP's" just couldn't understand how the Oswalds got out of Russia so easily. The older group said well, they figure that they were of no value to the Russians and they felt it was good riddance and didn't seem to be concerned about it because they felt the American government was keeping the proper surveillance on them and knew of their background. They would not be put in a position where they could do damage so it did not concern the ones that had been here since the revolution as much as the ones that got out recently.
Mr. Liebeler.
Most of the opinions of the latter group were based primarily on the difficulties, I suppose, that they themselves had in getting out of Russia, is that correct?
Mr. Clark.
Yes; based on the reason the ones--because they had considerable difficulty in getting out of those countries and they felt probably Oswald and Marina got out too easily.
Mr. Liebeler.
Can you think of any particular people, their names, as to this "DP" group that were suspicious or expressed suspicions because of Oswald's apparent ease with which he got out of Russia?
Mr. Clark.
Lydia Dymitruk and Alex Kleinlerer, the Mellers, Anna and Teofil Meller. I think you talked with them. I can't think. I know there's several others of the younger group that came over.
Mr. Liebeler.
Do you know Mr. and Mrs. Thomas Ray?
Mr. Clark.
Thomas Ray--her name is Anna Ray, yes; I met them.
Mr. Liebeler.
Do you know a Mr. and Mrs. Frank Ray?
Mr. Clark.
No; I don't; I am not sure of the first one; the one I know is the wife is of Russian origin; her name is Anna.
Mr. Liebeler.
That's Mrs. Frank Ray.
Mr. Clark.
That's the one I know.
Mr. Liebeler.
You don't know Mr. or Mrs. Thomas Ray; they live in Blossom, Tex.
Mr. Clark.
No; I don't. I might if I were to see them but I don't recall their name.
Mr. Liebeler.
Do you yourself have any reason to think that Oswald might be an agent of the Soviet Union?
Mr. Clark.
I didn't think he had the intelligence to be an agent.
Mr. Liebeler.
You did consider the question prior to the assassination?
Mr. Clark.
I considered it briefly when he first contacted us when he got back here and after talking with him, I felt I didn't think that they were that stupid to use someone that stupid as an agent.
Mr. Liebeler.
Did Oswald ever tell you that he had been contacted by the FBI?
Mr. Clark.
I did not discuss it with him.
Mr. Liebeler.
You never mentioned it?
Mr. Clark.
He never mentioned it. I did not inquire of him. I was keeping it strictly what life was in Russia. I was trying to stay off political issues or anything about the United States.
Mr. Liebeler.
I don't think I have any more questions. Thank you very much.

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George A. Bouhe

Testimony of George A. Bouhe

The testimony of George A. Bouhe was taken at 2 p.m., on March 23, 1964, in the office of the U.S. Attorney, 301 Post Office Building, Bryan and Ervay Streets, Dallas, Tex., by Mr. Wesley J. Liebeler, assistant counsel of the President's Commission.
Mr. Liebeler.
Mr. Bouhe, before we start I want to tell you that my name is Wesley J. Liebeler.
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