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Warren Commission Hearings: Vol. VIII - Page 337« Previous | Next »

(Testimony of Pauline Virginia Bates)

Mr. Jenner.
Uh-huh. Did he talk about his wife?
Mrs. Bates.
Yes--uh--some.
Mr. Jenner.
What did he say?
Mrs. Bates.
That--uh--she loved America and had wanted to come and that she liked it here very much and hoped that they could get work and stay. And that she---uh--couldn't get over walking down the streets, and the shops--and that New York had just astounded her.
Mr. Jenner.
Uh-huh.
Mrs. Bates.
And Texas climate--uh--was really good for her.
Mr. Jenner.
The climate, you mean?
Mrs. Bates.
Uh-huh.
And--uh--he never mentioned his mother. He never mentioned that he had a child.
Mr. Jenner.
In any of the notes you transcribed, was a child mentioned?
Mrs. Bates.
No, sir; I didn't know he had any.
Mr. Jenner.
In any notes that you transcribed, did he reach the point at which he had married Marina?
Mrs. Bates.
Never mentioned her. But he told me that he did.
Mr. Jenner.
What impression do you have as to the period of time in Russia that was covered by the notes that you typed?
Mrs. Bates.
Well, it was on Minsk and--uh--that one that starts with "K"-two cities--and he must have been on them for the whole time he was over there, because he told me he had to just do it when he could get the time and get away from people.
And I don't think it was anything that could have been gotten together in just a few months. It was too detailed.
Mr. Jenner.
Uh-huh. I see.
And your thought is that you typed about a third of his notes?
Mrs. Bates.
About--from the pile. I don't know how much more there was, really, because they were all sizes--the paper was.
Mr. Jenner.
And, also, he didn't permit you to look at the balance?
Mrs. Bates.
No; I just saw the envelope. I typed 10 full single-spaced pages.
Mr. Jenner.
That was letter size?
Mrs. Bates.
Letter size. Uh-huh. And that's a lot of words.
Mr. Jenner.
Yes; that's right.
Mrs. Bates.
I wish I could remember more about them but--uh--I think my legal training came forth there--you forget things deliberately when you're not suppose to remember things.
Mr. Jenner.
Yes.
Mrs. Bates.
All I remember is the terrible living conditions in Russia and the terrible working conditions.
They are both the same, Mr. Jenner [referring to two copies of the Fort Worth Press, which Mr. Jenner was perusing].
Mr. Jenner.
They are?
Mrs. Bates.
Uh-huh. One is the first edition and the other is the final edition.
Mr. Jenner.
I see. But the text of the story is the same?
Mrs. Bates.
Yes.
Mr. Jenner.
Did you relate that experience of yours to anybody at the time?
Mrs. Bates.
Well, after I--uh--after he left, a short time afterward, Caroline Hamilton and I are good friends. She's a reporter on the Press.
Mr. Jenner.
That's the Fort Worth Press?
Mrs. Bates.
Uh-huh.
And we were having lunch one day down at the corner drugstore and talking about, oh, just this, that, and the other thing, and I said, "By the way, Caroline, I did a real interesting job the other day. And the boy that I did it for is broke and out of a job, and you might be able to help him."
So, I gave her Lee's name and telephone number. That's all he gave me was the telephone number--his brother's telephone number.
Mr. Jenner.
Yes.
Mrs. Bates.
And they tried to contact him but couldn't.
Mr. Jenner.
Could not contact----
Mrs. Bates.
Lee.
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