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Warren Commission Hearings: Vol. VIII - Page 331« Previous | Next »

(Testimony of Pauline Virginia Bates)

Mr. Jenner.
Well, I meant transcribed in that sense. You transcribed that, from longhand into typing?
Mrs. Bates.
Well, some of them were typewritten, some of them were written in longhand pencil, some of it was written in pen.
Mr. Jenner.
Oh, is that so.
Mrs. Bates.
It was scraps of paper. Some of it was on just like bag paper. Some of it was just little scraps of paper-- whatever he could find.
Mr. Jenner.
Where do you reside now?
Mrs. Bates.
In Fort Worth.
Mr. Jenner.
And how long have you resided in Fort Worth?
Mrs. Bates.
Ten years last November.
Mr. Jenner.
What is your business, occupation, or profession?
Mrs. Bates.
I'm a legal public stenographer.
Mr. Jenner.
And how long have you been a legal public stenographer?
Mrs. Bates.
In Fort Worth, 10 years a little over 10 years.
Mr. Jenner.
And is there a difference between being a legal public stenographer and a public stenographer?
Mrs. Bates.
Well, I think so. I think I'm the only one in Fort Worth that has legal training.
Mr. Jenner.
That's what I wish to bring out. You are a public stenographer and you seek to direct your talents primarily toward law work?
Mrs. Bates.
Yes.
Mr. Jenner.
Lawyers, court reporting, and that sort of' thing?
Mrs. Bates.
Uh-huh--well, I haven't done any court reporting. I have done work for court reporters--transcribe for them, and things like that.
Mr. Jenner.
Are you a citizen of the United States?
Mrs. Bates.
Yes, sir.
Mr. Jenner.
You are a native born American?
Mrs. Bates.
Yes, sir--Forest Grove, Oreg.
Mr. Jenner.
How long have you resided in the Fort Worth-Dallas area?
Mrs. Bates.
Ten years last November.
Mr. Jenner.
And you came from where?
Mrs. Bates.
Oakland, Calif.
Mr. Jenner.
And what was your business or occupation when you were in Oakland, Calif.?
Mrs. Bates.
Legal stenographer--legal secretary.
Mr. Jenner.
That has always been your--insofar as you have had a business or occupation--it's been that?
Mrs. Bates.
Except during the war when I worked in the shipyards.
Mr. Jenner.
Out on the coast?
Mrs. Bates.
Richmond. I have also been a waitress.
Mr. Jenner.
Mrs. Bates, if anything seems personal to you, it's not intended as being personal. I'm trying to set the background. And you are at liberty at any time to say to me that you think maybe I'm going too far.
Mrs. Bates.
I don't have anything to hide.
Mr. Jenner.
All right. I'm sure you don't.
During the time you lived in the Fort Worth-Dallas area, did you have occasion to come in contact with a person known as Lee Harvey Oswald?
Mrs. Bates.
He was known to me as Lee Oswald.
Mr. Jenner.
All right. With a person known as Lee Oswald? And, just so we understand each other, is the person you knew as Lee Oswald and the person I just called Lee Harvey Oswald the person that you understand to be the man who was accused of the assassination of President Kennedy?
Mr. Bates.
Yes. He was one and the same person. I recognized him.
Mr. Jenner.
Yes. Now, tell me the circumstances under which that acquaintanceship arose.
Mrs. Bates.
He walked into my office one day, said he had gotten my name out of the telephone directory. It so happens it's the first one in the public stenographers.
Mr. Jenner.
And how was he attired on that occasion?
Mrs. Bates.
He had dark trousers on, a white T-shirt and a blazer-type jacket--a dark blazer-type jacket.
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