Mr. Hill.

possibility that he decided the best thing to do was keep his mouth shut; that is a supposition on my part, and I couldn't prove it as to the reason he didn't say any more on the way to the police station.

Mr. Belin.

Where did the police get ahold of his address on Beckley?

Mr. Hill.

I don't know. This apparently came from homicide later, and once we turned him over to homicide, with the exception of seeing him walking down the hall again in front of several TV people later in the day, I had nothing else to do with the man. I never saw him again.

Mr. Belin.

Sergeant Hill, from the time he was handcuffed until the time you turned him over to Captain Fritz, except for the moments that he was in the room with Officer Walker in the interrogation room, were you with the suspect at all times?

Mr. Hill.

Yes; and I was also with him when I was standing in the doorway of the room when he was there, with Walker. The door was never closed.

Mr. Belin.

The door was never closed?

Mr. Hill.

No.

Mr. Belin.

While you were standing in the doorway with Walker, did the man, suspect, say anything at all, or not?

Mr. Hill.

Not that I recall, sir. At this time when I was in the doorway, I was talking to Baker and had my attention more on him and what he was saying, because at that point we were trying to decide if he wanted the gun, if we were going to make the offense, or homicide, or the officers that stayed out at the scene to wait for the crime lab. We were talking trying to get the paper-work straight.

Mr. Belin.

How far was the suspect from you at this time?

Mr. Hill.

Sitting across the table, about as wide as this, and maybe 2 more feet to the door.

Mr. Belin.

About how far would that be?

Mr. Hill.

About 6 feet.

Mr. Belin.

How close was the other officer to you?

Mr. Hill.

The other officer was at the end of the table here. He was probably 4 feet from me and 4 feet from the suspect.

Mr. Belin.

Did you hear, the other officer say anything to the suspect?

Mr. Hill.

No, sir; I didn't.

Mr. Belin.

Did you hear the suspect say anything at all?

Mr. Hill.

I didn't hear the suspect say anything at all. Other than the statement he made in the basement. I didn't hear him utter another word.

Mr. Belin.

If the suspect had told anyone his address from the time he was apprehended until the time he was turned over to Captain Fritz, would you have been in a position to hear that statement made?

Mr. Hill.

With my attention diverted talking to Baker, it is possible that he could have given his address to Walker without me hearing it. but I can't say for sure.

Mr. Belin.

Apart from what he may have said to Walker, if there was anything else that he could have said except for during that period, would you have heard it if he said anything about living on North Beckley?

Mr. Hill.

I am sure until the time that the suspect was turned over to Fritz, other than maybe a couple of words exchanged between Walker and the suspect while I was standing in the door talking to Baker, I am sure I would have heard it, and I never did hear the address North Beckley mentioned until much later in the day, and this was strictly hearsay, sir.

Mr. Belin.

Well, did you hear any Beckley Street address mentioned?

Mr. Hill.

I didn't hear anything on Beckley mentioned until probably 7 or 8 o'clock that night.

Mr. Belin.

Did you talk to Walker after he left the interrogation room?

Mr. Hill.

Talked to Walker after he left the interrogation room. He came into the personnel office with us, and we sat down and made sure that--we just talked over our story and made sure that we had all the details as to who was where in the arrest, what door the man came in into the theatre, where they were when the original contact was made, how Bentley hurt his foot, how Lyons hurt his foot, and all this, and decided, well, rather than have to get everybody back together and round them up and all six or seven people sign the one