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Warren Commission Hearings: Vol. VII - Page 5« Previous | Next »

(Testimony of Johnny Calvin Brewer)

Mr. Belin.
Why did you ask Julia Postal whether he had or hadn't?
Mr. Brewer.
I don't know.
Mr. Belin.
You just asked her?
Mr. Brewer.
Just asked her whether he had bought or she had seen him go in.
Mr. Belin.
She---did she say whether she had seen him, or don't you remember?
Mr. Brewer.
She said she couldn't remember a man of that description going in.
Mr. Belin.
All right. You saw this person Butch?
Mr. Brewer.
Yes, sir.
Mr. Belin.
You say he is the usher, too?
Mr. Brewer.
Yes.
Mr. Belin.
What did you and Butch do?
Mr. Brewer.
We walked down to the front of the theatre to the stage. First we checked the front exit, and it hadn't been opened. We went to the back and it hadn't been opened.
Mr. Belin.
How could you tell that it hadn't been opened?
Mr. Brewer.
Well, you open it from the inside, and you raise a bar, and a rod sticks into a hole at the bottom and then you open it. When you close it, it doesn't fall back in. You have to raise the rod again to close it from the inside.
Mr. Belin.
In other words, you have to close it from the inside?
Mr. Brewer.
You can close it from the outside, but it won't lock.
Mr. Belin.
It was locked when you got there?
Mr. Brewer.
Yes.
Mr. Belin.
So you knew that no one had left?
Mr. Brewer.
Yes.
Mr. Belin.
Then what did you do?
Mr. Brewer.
We went back up front and went in the balcony and looked around but we couldn't see anything.
Mr. Belin.
Now you first looked on the bottom floor and you did not see him?
Mr. Brewer.
Yes.
Mr. Belin.
How many patrons were in the theatre at that time?
Mr. Brewer.
I couldn't really tell. There weren't many, but it was dark and we couldn't see how many people were in there. There were 15 or 20, I would say, at the most, upstairs and downstairs.
Mr. Belin.
Together, 15 or 20?
Mr. Brewer.
Yes.
Mr. Belin.
Then you went upstairs. Did you see him upstairs?
Mr. Brewer.
No; I couldn't see anything upstairs.
Mr. Belin.
Did you hear any noises there?
Mr. Brewer.
When we first went down to the exit by the stage, we heard a seat pop up, but couldn't see anybody. And we never did see him. But we went back and upstairs and checked, and we came down and went back to the box office and told Julia that we hadn't seen him.
Mr. Belin.
Julia Postal is the cashier?
Mr. Brewer.
Yes; and she called the police, and we went----Butch went to the front exit, and I went down by the stage to the back exit and stood there until the police came.
Mr. Belin.
Then what happened?
Mr. Brewer.
Well, just before they came. they turned the house lights on, and I looked out from the curtains and saw the man.
Mr. Belin.
Where was he when you saw him?
Mr. Brewer.
He was in the center section about six or seven rows, from the back, toward the back.
Mr. Belin.
Toward the back? Are you sure?
Mr. Brewer, do you know exactly which row he was in from the back?
Mr. Brewer.
No; I don't know which row.
Mr. Belin.
Then what did you see?
Mr. Brewer.
He stood up and walked to the aisle to his right and then he turned around and walked back and sat down and at this time there was no place I could see.
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