company, and that a police officer had come down there, and they had gone to the construction company and gotten somebody to come down and get the car out of the way.
Apparently it was just a car stalled down there.
But this lady said she thought she saw somebody that looked like they had a guncase. But then I didn't pursue that any further-- because then I had gotten the information that the rifle had been found in the building and shells and so forth.
At that time Mr. Harry McCormack, who is a reporter for the Dallas Morning News, and whom I have known for many years, came to me and says, "Forrest, I have something over here you ought to know about."
I said, "What have you got here?"
He said, "I have a man over here that got pictures of this whole thing."
I said, "Let's go see him."
So we went on to a building at the corner of Elm and Houston, on the east side of Houston, and across the street from the court house building there, up to the office of a Mr. Zapruder, they have a dress manufacturing place there in that building. And he was there with another man connected with the business there, and apparently some magazine representatives there. And Mr. Zapruder was real shook up. He said that he didn't know how in the world he had taken these pictures, that he was down there and was taking the thing there, and he says, "My God, I saw the whole thing. I saw the man's brains come out of his head."
And so I asked Mr. Zapruder would it be possible for us to get a copy of those films.
He said, yes.
So then accompanied by Mr. Zapruder, and this other gentleman in the business there with him, whose name I don't recall at the moment, and Mr. McCormack, we went then to the Dallas Morning News Building, which is about three blocks from Mr. Zapruder's building, three or four blocks from there, with the idea of getting those films developed right away.
There was no one there that would tackle the job. We then went to the television section, WFAA, of the Dallas Morning News, to see if we could get them to handle it there, and they said, no, they would not attempt to do that, but they did assist us by calling Eastman Kodak Co., and they said if we came out there right away, that they would get right on it.
We got a police car, and went right on out to the Eastman Kodak Co., and while there I met another gentleman who had seen some still pictures, and arranged with him for us to get copies of those.

Mr. Stern.

What was his name---do you recall?

Mr. Sorrels.

He is a salesman for the Ford Co. on West Commerce Street--Mr. Willis.
And so he said, yes, that he would be glad to furnish me with a copy of the pictures.
At that time, I made a phone call to my office, because I had not been in contact with them since we had departed from Love Field. I was informed that an FBI agent had called the office and said that Captain Fritz of the Homicide Bureau had been trying to get in touch with me, that he had a suspect in custody.

Mr. Stern.

About what time was that?

Mr. Sorrels.

That would be fairly close to 2 o'clock, I imagine.

Mr. Stern.

About an hour after you had returned----

Mr. Sorrels.

Yes. I would say that it was at least that long--maybe a little bit longer.
So when I got that information, I told Mr. Zapruder that I would contact him later and get the pictures, because I wanted to get right down to Captain Fritz' office.
So I left then with the same police car and had them take me to Captain Fritz' office.
And upon arrival there, there was many officers around there, there was already cameras out in the hall, tripods, and so forth, and all of the city hall down there. And .there was a number of officers in the detective bureau

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