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Warren Commission Hearings: Vol. VII - Page 303« Previous | Next »

(Testimony of Harry D. Holmes)

Mr. Holmes.
had covered all that. Nobody asked him about from the minute he walked out the door as to what happened to him, except somebody asked him about the shooting of Tippit, and he said, "I don't know what you are talking about."
He said, "The only thing that I am in here for is because I popped a policeman in the nose in a theatre on Jefferson Avenue, which I readily admit I did, because I was protecting myself."
Mr. Belin.
Because he was what?
Mr. Holmes.
"Protecting myself."
Mr. Belin.
Now, I want you now to take a look for the first time during our interview here at Holmes Deposition Exhibit 4, and thus far you have been testifying just from memory, is that correct?
Mr. Holmes.
Yes; sir.
Mr. BELIN. Now, I notice that it starts out, that it is in an informal memorandum that you put together, and then the second paragraph, you have the general impression that Oswald appeared confused or in doubt.
I wonder if you would read that second paragraph and see if there is anything that you remember to elaborate on at this time.
Mr. Holmes.
Read it aloud or to myself?
Mr. Belin.
No; to yourself, and see if there is anything you can remember to elaborate.
Mr. Holmes.
The only part I have not covered would be the impression that I received that he had disciplined his mind and his reflexes to a point where I doubt if he would even have been a good subject to a polygraph test, a lie detector.
Mr. Belin.
Anything else you would care to elaborate?
Mr. Holmes.
I believe not.
Mr. Belin.
Well, I wonder then if you would take a look at the second paragraph that begins "P.O. Boxes."
That is really the third paragraph on the page.
Mr. Holmes.
No; I think I have, if I remember that pretty well.
Mr. Belin.
All right, you take a look at the next paragraph, which is the last paragraph on the first page.
Mr. Holmes.
I believe there would be nothing to elaborate or change on it.
Mr. Belin.
Turn to page 2 on the first paragraph of the next page.
Mr. Holmes.
The only thing there that I haven't covered would be that the reason these various post office boxes wherever he went was that it was much easier to have his mail reach him through post office forwarding orders than it was to try to get somebody over in Russia to change the address on a newspaper.
Mr. Belin.
By the way, did he talk about anything at all about his life in Russia?
Mr. Holmes.
He mentioned only that he met his wife in Minsk. That was her home town.
Mr. Belin.
Anything else?
Mr. Holmes.
It seemed like it was a dance. He met her at a dance, he told us.
Mr. Belin.
Anything else?
Mr. Holmes.
That he took these two local newspapers for her benefit, because it was local news to her and that was the reason he was getting those papers. She enjoyed reading about the home folks.
Mr. Belin.
Anything else about Russia? Did he ever say anything about going to Mexico? Was that ever covered?
Mr. Holmes.
Yes. To the extent that mostly about--well--he didn't spend, "Where did you get the money?" He didn't have much money and he said it didn't cost much money. He did say that where he stayed it cost $26 some odd, small ridiculous amount to eat, and another ridiculous small amount to stay all night, and that he went to the Mexican Embassy to try to get this permission to go to Russia by Cuba, but most of the talks that he wanted to talk about was how he got by with a little amount.
They said, "Well, who furnished you the money to go to Mexico?"
"Well, it didn't take much money." And it was along that angle, was the conversation.
Mr. Belin.
Did he admit that he went to Mexico?
Mr. Holmes.
Oh, yes.
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