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Warren Commission Hearings: Vol. VI - Page 321« Previous | Next »

(Testimony of J. Herbert Sawyer)

Mr. Belin.
notice your number there for any calls at all that might have come in? What number did you use?
Mr. Sawyer.
I used No. 9. That is my regular call No. 9.
Mr. BELIN. I notice here a No. 9, the first time that appears to come in here is at 12:40 p.m.; is that right?
Mr. Sawyer.
That is the first one after 12:40, sir.
Mr. Belin.
The first one after 12:30?
Mr. Sawyer.
The first one after 12:30, yes, that is true.
Mr. BELIN. Then at 12:40, there is a bunch of calls at 12:40, with the next call number at 12:43, so you assume sometime 12:40 and 12:43 you, as No. 9, called in, is that correct?
Mr. Sawyer.
That's correct.
Mr. Belin.
Would you read what it says that you said there?

Mr. SAWYER. "We need more manpower down here at the Texas Book Depository; there should be a bunch on Main if somebody can pick them up and bring them down here."
Mr. Belin.
Was that said before or after you came down from the elevator?
Mr. Sawyer.
That was after.
Mr. Belin.
Was that before or after you told the men there to guard the front door and not let anyone in or out?
Mr. Sawyer.
That was after.
Mr. Belin.
Now the next time that No. 9 appears is at what time?
Mr. Sawyer.
Immediately after 12:43 and before 12:45.
Mr. Belin.
What did you say then?
Mr. Sawyer.
"The wanted person in this is a slender white male about 30, 5 feet 10, 165, carrying what looks to be a 30-30 or some type of Winchester."
Mr. Belin.
Then the statement is made from the home office, "It was a rifle?"
Mr. Sawyer.
I answered, "Yes, a rifle."
Mr. Belin.
Then the reply to you, "Any clothing description ?"
Mr. Sawyer.
"Current witness can't remember that."
Mr. BELIN. Then the statement is made sometime before 12:45 p.m., and after the 12:43 p.m., call, "Attention all squads, description was broadcast and no further information at this time."
Does that mean the description you made was rebroadcast?
Mr. Sawyer.
I rebroadcast that description. That is what that means.
Mr. Belin.
I then notice on this radio log---I don't see anything more under 9, at least until after the, well, it is down until we have gone as far as 1:30 p.m., I don't see anything else, do you, sir?

Mr. SAWYER. No. There is another broadcast in there somewhere, though. I put out another description on the colored boy that worked in that department.
Mr. BELIN. What do you mean the colored boy that worked in that depository?
Mr. Sawyer.
He is one that had a previous record in the narcotics, and he was supposed to have been a witness to the man being on that floor. He was supposed to have been a witness to Oswald being there.
Mr. Belin.
Would Charles Givens have been that boy?

Mr. SAWYER. Yes, I think that is the name, and I put out a description on him.
Mr. Belin.
How do you know he was supposed to be a witness on that?
Mr. SAWYER. Somebody told me that. Somebody came to me with the information. And again, that particular party, whoever it was, I don't know. I remember that a deputy sheriff came up to me who had been over taking these affidavits, that I sent them over there, and he came over from the sheriff's office with a picture and a description of this colored boy and he said that he was supposed to have worked at the Texas Book Depository, and he was the one employee who was missing, or he was missing from the building.
He wasn't accounted for, and that he was suppose to have some information about the man that did the shooting.
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