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Warren Commission Hearings: Vol. VI - Page 319« Previous | Next »

(Testimony of J. Herbert Sawyer)

Mr. Belin.
That is Decker?
Mr. Sawyer.
That's right.
Mr. Belin.
You believe that is what Decker said?
Mr. Sawyer.
That is what he said, yes, that's right.
Mr. Belin.
All right.
Mr. Sawyer.
His number is Dallas-l, and they are talking to 1. They have that confused.
Mr. Belin.
Well, Curry is 1 also?
Mr. Sawyer.
That's right.
Mr. Belin.
But I think they were riding in the same car?

Mr. SAWYER. That might be correct, but this is actually Decker's voice here, and that is what he had to say.
Mr. Belin.
Well, then, the comment is made "Notify Station 5----"
Mr. Sawyer.
That is the Sheriffs Office.
Mr. BELIN. "To move all men available out of my Department back into the railroad yard----"
And that you feel is Decker talking because of the reference to Station 5?
Mr. Sawyer.
Also, my memory serves that it was his voice that made that.
Mr. BELIN. All right, then, at 12:31, is a notation there that quotes, "It looks like the President has been hit."
Then there doesn't appear to be anything pertaining to where the shots might have come from until we see at 12:34, there is a call from officer, it says No. 136, that states, "A passer-by states the shots came from Texas School Book Depository Building.
This is the first reference in the log about the Texas School Book Depository, is that correct?
Mr. Sawyer.
That's correct.
Mr. Belin.
Do you feel that you heard in your car some reference to the Texas School Book Depository building?
Mr. Sawyer.
I do.
Mr. Belin.
Would it be fair for me to assume then that you had not at least completely left your car by 12:34 p.m?
Mr. Sawyer.
Correct.
Mr. Belin.
Then when you got to the Texas School Book Depository, well, you got out of the car and talked to some people or to some officers?
Mr. Sawyer.
Officers.
Mr. Belin.
And then what did the officers tell you?

Mr. SAWYER. That their information was that the shots had come from the fifth floor of the Texas School Book Depository.
Mr. BELIN. Did any officers give you any other information about the source of the shots other than the fact that it came from the Texas School Book Depository, at that particular time?
Mr. SAWYER. I can't say whether it was officers or who, but there was a reference also made to the overpass.
Mr. BELIN. All right, in any event--pardon me, do you have anything else to add?
Mr. SAWYER. Also, there was a broadcast here in the transcript about the railroad yard.
Mr. Belin.
All right.
Mr. SAWYER. And this could be part of what I was thinking about, or what I had heard, was this broadcast on the radio about the railroad yard.
Mr. Belin.
Then what did you do? You went inside the building, is that correct?

Mr. SAWYER. We immediately went inside the building. I took--I believe Sgt. Harkness may have gone with me. I am not positive of that.
Mr. Belin.
Was the elevator on the first floor when you got there, or did you have to wait for it to come down?
Mr. Sawyer.
Best of my recollection, it was there.
Mr. Belin.
You got to the elevator, went up, looked around back there. How long did you spend up there at the top floor that the elevator took you to?

Mr. SAWYER Just took a quick look around and made sure there was nobody hiding on that floor. I doubt if it took over a minute at the most.
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