Mr. Couch.

Yes.

Mr. Belin.

Were you at Love Field in Dallas when the President arrived?

Mr. Couch.

That's right; uh-huh.

Mr. Belin.

Did you take moving pictures of him there?

Mr. Couch.

That's right.

Mr. Belin.

Then you got in the motorcade?

Mr. Couch.

Right; uh-huh.

Mr. Belin.

And the motorcade proceeded, first, from Love Field toward downtown Dallas--is that correct?

Mr. Couch.

That's right.

Mr. Belin.

Do you remember the route you took through downtown Dallas?

Mr. COUCH. Uh--roughly. It was out through the airport parkway to Mockingbird Lane to Lemmon, down Lemmon to Turtle Creek, down Turtle Creek to--uh--I'm not sure of those streets. I think McKinney or Cedar Springs. I'm not sure.
Mr. BELIN. Well, if you aren't particularly sure---okay. What about when you got downtown to the center of Dallas? Do you remember what streets you went on?
Mr. COUCH. Yes. Well, we came in on Harwood and then turned right on Main at the City Hall.

Mr. Belin.

And then you took Main to where?

Mr. Couch.

Main down to--uh--Houston.

Mr. Belin.

All right. You were heading, now, west on Main down to Houston?

Mr. Couch.

Right.

Mr. Belin.

About where in the motorcade was your car? Do you remember offhand?

Mr. COUCH Uh-uh---roughly---and I'm not sure---the fifth or sixth car back from the lead car. I'm not sure which one.

Mr. Belin.

Now, do you remember, as you approached Houston Street on Main about how fast the motorcade was going?
Mr. COUCH. I would estimate uh--20 miles an hour. The speed had picked up some. Everyone gave a sigh a relief that---uh---it was over; and one of the cameramen, I remember, his camera broke and another one was out of film. Everyone was relaxed. And--uh--of course, then we turned north on Houston, and it was there that we heard the first gunshot.
Mr. BELIN. All right. Before we get to the first gunshot--do you remember who was riding in the car with you?
Mr. COUCH. Uh-as best I can it was Jimmy Darnell--Channel 5; uh--Bob Jackson--Times Herald; Jim Underwood---KRLD-TV; and the fellow--uh--Mr. Dillard--Tom Dillard--Dallas Morning News. And the driver of the car; I don't know his name.

Mr. Belin.

Were you sitting in the front or the back seat?

Mr. Couch.

Sitting in the back.
Mr. BELIN. Do you remember anything about your position as to the way you were sitting in the back?
Mr. COUCH. Yes; I was almost in the middle and sitting on the--it was a convertible and sitting on the back of the back seat, with my feet on the seat.

Mr. Belin.

Your feet were on the seat-and you would be sitting on the top of the back seat?

Mr. Couch.

That's right.

Mr. Belin.

There were three of you in the back?

Mr. Couch.

Yes; three in the back.

Mr. Belin.

And were you in the middle or to-the right or to the left?

Mr. Couch.

I was about in the middle.
Mr. BELIN. All right. Now, as you turned north on Houston, do you remember about how fast you were going?
Mr. COUCH. Well, I'd say still that--of course, allowing for the turn--that the pace of the motorcade was about the same. We were clipping along and, as I said, I do have films after we had turned the other comer, and you could still see that the motorcade was moving fairly fast.