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Warren Commission Hearings: Vol. V - Page 66« Previous | Next »

(Testimony of Robert A. Frazier)

Mr. Specter.
What are the characteristics which led you to believe that it had the characteristics of a bullet hole?
Mr. Frazier.
It has the roughly circular shape with slight tearing away from the edges of the material.
Mr. Specter.
Is there any other hole on the trousers which could be a hole of exit?
Mr. Frazier.
No, sir.
Mr. Specter.
Mr. Frazier, did you have occasion to examine an automobile which was the vehicle used customarily by the President of the United States in parades?
Mr. Frazier.
Yes; I did.
Mr. Specter.
When did that examination occur?
Mr. Frazier.
In the early morning hours of November 23, 1963, at the Secret here in Washington, D.C.
Mr. Specter.
I now hand you a photograph previously identified for the record as Commission Exhibit No. 344 and ask you if that depicts the car which you examined?
Mr. Frazier.
Yes, sir; it is.
Mr. Specter.
I hand you a subsequent exhibit of the Commission, No. 346, showing the interior view of the automobile and ask you if that depicts the automobile which you examined?
Mr. Frazier.
Yes, sir; however, it wasn't in this condition. It wasn't as clean as it is in Exhibit 346.
Mr. Specter.
What was the condition with respect to cleanliness?
Mr. Frazier.
There were blood and particles of flesh scattered all over the hood, the windshield, in the front seat and all over the rear floor rugs, the jump seats, and over the rear seat, and down both sides of the side rails or tops of the doors of the car.
Mr. Specter.
Is that condition depicted by Commission Exhibits 352 and 353 to the extent that they show the interior of the automobile?
Mr. Frazier.
Yes, sir.
Mr. Specter.
What was the purpose of the examination which you made of the car at that time and place?
Mr. Frazier.
I examined the car to determine whether or not there were any bullet fragments present in it, embedded in the upholstery of the back of the front seat, or whether there were any impact areas which indicated that bullets or bullet fragments struck the inside of the car.
Mr. Specter.
With respect to the fragments first, what did your examination disclose?
Mr. Frazier.
We found three small lead particles lying on the rug in the rear seat area. These particles were located underneath or in the area which would be underneath the left jump seat.
Mr. Specter.
Have those particles been identified during the course of your prior testimony?
Mr. Frazier.
No, sir; they have not?
Mr. Specter.
Will you produce them at this time then, please? May we assign to this group of particles Commission Exhibit No. 840?
Mr. Dulles.
These have not been discussed before, have they?
Mr. Specter.
They have not.
Mr. Dulles.
It shall be admitted as Commission Exhibit No. 840.
(Commission Exhibit No. 840 was marked for identification and received in evidence.)
Mr. Specter.
I move formally for their admission, then, into evidence at this time.
Mr. Dulles.
They shall be admitted.
Mr. Specter.
Will you describe the three pieces of metal which are contained within this vial, please?
Mr. Frazier.
The three pieces of metal are lead. They were weighed immediately upon recovery and were found to weigh nine-tenths of a grain, seven-tenths of a grain, and seven-tenths of a grain, respectively. Since that time small
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