Mr. Jenner.

That was in Dallas?

Mr. Weissman.

In Dallas; yes.

Mr. Jenner.

Where did you become acquainted with that possible business opportunity?

Mr. Weissman.

Well, this had been broached by Larrie. This was one of the big disappointments. We had been promised by Larrie we wouldn't have any trouble making a living, that he had jobs and everything set up for us. That is one of the reasons I chucked my job in New York. I figured we would be able to survive down there.
We got to the Ducharme Club, after a day or two, and it was a miserable hole in the wall that you could not really do anything with. But we were still dickering with the owner on the potentials.

Mr. Dulles.

What did this club purport to do?

Mr. Weissman.

It was a private club. They sold liquor and beer over the bar to members.

Mr. Dulles.

Entertainment?

Mr. Weissman.

They had a dance floor and jukebox.

Mr. Jenner.

Who-do you recall the names of any of the people interested in the Ducharme Club?

Mr. Weissman.

The owners?

Mr. Jenner.

Yes.

Mr. Weissman.

The only one I know of is Leon Ducharme, the owner.

Mr. Jenner.

Did Jack Ruby or Jack Rubenstein have any interest in this club?

Mr. Weissman.

No; not as far as I know.

Mr. Jenner.

Did you ever meet Jack Ruby or Jack Rubenstein?

Mr. Weissman.

Never.

Mr. Jenner.

Did you become acquainted with the Carousel Club when you were in Dallas?

Mr. Weissman.

I was never in it, and I still don't know where it is.

Mr. Jenner.

You were never in it; you don't know where it is. Did you hear of it when you were there?

Mr. Weissman.

Never. As a matter of fact, in the entire 3 1/2 weeks or so that Bill and I were in Dallas, we didn't go to the movies at all. The only two clubs that I can recall that we went into was the Lavender Lounge----

Mr. Jenner.

Where is that located?

Mr. Weissman.

That is in Dallas.

Mr. Jenner.

Where?

Mr. Weissman.

I don't recall the street.

Mr. Jenner.

It is downtown, is it?

Mr. Weissman.

No; it is not downtown. This is-it was about two blocks from our apartment. And it is about, I guess, a good 30-minute walk to downtown from there. And the only other club would be the Ducharme Club.

Mr. Jenner.

Where was that located?

Mr. Weissman.

That was on Haskell Avenue, in Dallas.

Mr. Jenner.

How far from the downtown area, if at all?

Mr. Weissman.

Well, to make it conveniently, you should take a bus. Otherwise, about a 20 minute walk.

Mr. Jenner.

From the Ducharme Club to the downtown area of Dallas?

Mr. Weissman.

Yes, sir; and the reason we went to the Ducharme Club after the fact we decided we were not going to take it, was that that was a place we could get credit for beer. Larrie had a charge account there. And that was the extent of our association with that place.

Mr. Jenner.

Now----

Mr. Weissman.

Now, in the Lavender Lounge, the reason we went there, is we were dickering with the owners of the Lavender Lounge----

Mr. Jenner.

Name him.

Mr. Weissman.

L. S. Brotherton. We wanted to lease a club that he had that was closed down, called the Beachcomber, in a suburb of Dallas. And we had been in there several times and had talked to him about leasing this. In other words, we were looking for something that would give us an income so we could operate a little bit. And that never worked out. He wanted too much money, and we didn't have it.