Mr. Weissman.

Yes. It is a GI guest house.

Mr. Jenner.

This man you have now mentioned, Moseley, was a civilian in Germany?

Mr. Weissman.

He was a civilian; yes.

Mr. Jenner.

How did he come to be in Munich? Was his father stationed there?

Mr. Weissman.

His father was stationed there. But he was also employed by Rambler--he was selling Ramblers.

Mr. Jenner.

What is Mr. Moseley's hometown?

Mr. Weissman.

Yes.

Mr. Jenner.

What is Mr. Moseley's hometown?

Mr. Weissman.

I believe it is New York. I am not sure.

Mr. Jenner.

How old a man is he?

Mr. Weissman.

He is a pretty young fellow. He is about 21.

Mr. Jenner.

a. Now, have you named all of you who were the nucleus of this group?

Mr. Weissman.

To my recollection, yes.

Mr. Jenner.

Had you finished your statement as to the general--the general statement as to the purpose of this organization which consisted of the two arms?

Mr. Weissman.

Not completely. I think what might bear directly is we had planned while in Munich that in order to accomplish our goals, to try to do it from scratch would be almost impossible, because it would be years before we could even get the funds to develop a powerful organization. So we had planned to infiltrate various rightwing organizations and by our own efforts become involved in the hierarchy of these various organizations and eventually get ourselves elected or appointed to various higher offices in these organizations, and by doing this bring in some of our own people, and eventually take over the leadership of these organizations, and at that time having our people in these various organizations, we would then, you might say, call a conference and have them unite, and while no one knew of the existence of CUSA aside from us, we would then bring them all together, unite them, and arrange to have it called CUSA.

Mr. Jenner.

You never accomplished this, did you?

Mr. Weissman.

Almost. Here is how far we did get.
Larrie had--and this was according to plan--the first organization we planned to infiltrate was the NIC, National Indignation Convention, headed by Frank McGee in Dallas. About a week or so after Larrie got to Dallas he got himself a job with the NIC, as one of the very few paid men.
This didn't last too long, because a few weeks after that the NIC went under. And we had also--in other words, we had planned to use these organizations as vehicles to accomplish----

Mr. Jenner.

Keep going on those details of your infiltration.

Mr. Weissman.

All right. We had planned to infiltrate these various right-wing organizations.

Mr. Jenner.

You mentioned one.

Mr. Weissman.

The NIC. The Young Americans for Freedom. We succeeded there.

Mr. Jenner.

What organization is that?

Mr. Weissman.

The Young Americans for Freedom? This was an organization essentially of conservative youths, college students, and if I recall I think the most they ever accomplished was running around burning baskets from Yugoslavia.

Mr. Jenner.

Where was it based?

Mr. Weissman.

This is southwest. Regional headquarters was in Dallas, Tex., Box 2364.

Mr. Jenner.

And the earlier organization, the organization you mentioned a moment ago, NIC--where was that based?

Mr. Weissman.

Dallas.

Mr. Jenner.

All right. What is the next one?

Mr. Weissman.

We had also discussed getting some people in with General Walker, getting some people into the John Birch Society.

Mr. Jenner.

Stick with General Walker for a moment. To what extent were you able to infiltrate, as you call it, General Walker's group?