Mrs. Oswald.

Never.

Mr. Rankin.

That you recall?

Mrs. Oswald.

I was only twice in a store in Irving where they sell, like a cafe, where you can buy something to eat and where they sell toys and clothes and things like that; a little bit like a Woolworths, a one-story shop but without any furniture in it.

Mr. Rankin.

Do you know a Mrs. Whitworth who works in a furniture store in Irving?

Mrs. Oswald.

I was never in Irving in any furniture store.

Mr. Rankin.

Do you know a Mrs. Whitworth?

Mrs. Oswald.

It is the first time I have ever heard that name.

Mr. Rankin.

Do you know a Mrs. Hunter, a friend of Mrs. Whitworth?

Mrs. Oswald.

No.

Mr. Rankin.

Did you ever go on a trip with your husband to have a telescopic lens mounted on a gun at a gunshop?

Mrs. Oswald.

Never. No; this is all not true. In the first place, my husband couldn't drive, and I was never alone with him in a car. Anytime we went in a car it was with Ruth Paine, and there was never--we never went to any gun store and never had any telescopic lens mounted.

Mr. Rankin.

Did the four of you, that is, your husband, you, and your two children, ever go alone any place in Irving?

Mrs. Oswald.

In Irving the baby was only 1 month old. I never took her out anywhere.

Representative Ford.

Did you ever go anytime----

Mrs. Oswald.

Just to doctor, you know.

Representative Ford.

Did you ever go anytime with your husband in a car with the rifle?

Mrs. Oswald.

I was never at anytime in a car with my husband and with a rifle. Not only with the rifle, not even with a pistol. Even without anything I was never with my husband in a car under circumstances where he was driving a car.

Representative Ford.

Did you go in a car with somebody else driving where your husband had the pistol or the rifle?

Mrs. Oswald.

Never. I don't know what to think about this.

Mr. Rankin.

Mrs. Oswald, I will hand you Commission's Exhibit No. 819 and ask you particularly about the signature at the bottom.

Mrs. Oswald.

That is Lee's handwriting, and this is mine.

Mr. Rankin.

Were the words "A. J. Hidell, Chapter President" on Commission Exhibit No. 819 are in your handwriting?

Mrs. Oswald.

Yes.

Mr. Rankin.

Would you tell the Commission how you happened to sign that?

Mrs. Oswald.

Lee wrote this down on a piece of paper and told me to sign it on this card, and said that he would beat me if I didn't sign that name on the card.

Mr. Rankin.

Did you have any other discussion about your signing that name?

Mrs. Oswald.

Yes.

Mr. Rankin.

What discussion did you have?

Mrs. Oswald.

I said that this sounded like Fidel. I said, "You have selected this name because it sounds like Fidel" and he blushed and said, "Shut up, it is none of your business."

Mr. Rankin.

Was there any discussion about who Hidell, as signed on the bottom of that card, was?

Mrs. Oswald.

He said that it was his own name and that there is no Hidell in existence, and I asked him, "You just have two names," and he said, "Yes."

Mr. Rankin.

Was anything else said about that matter at any time?

Mrs. Oswald.

I taunted him about this and teased about this and said how shameful it is that a person who has his own perfectly good name should take another name and he said, "It is none of your business, I would have to do it this way, people will think I have a big organization" and so forth.

Mr. Rankin.

Did you ask him why he needed to have the other name in your handwriting rather than his own?