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Warren Commission Hearings: Vol. V - Page 302« Previous | Next »

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Mr. Mcvickar.
here. In fact, I didn't even remember that I had written this memorandum until I saw it the other day.
Mr. Dulles.
Is the language "he will be trained" or "he had been trained"?
Mr. Mcvickar.
"He will be," that is what I wrote.
Mr. Dulles.
Is it possible that could have been a reference to past training during the Marines when he was trained in electronics?
Mr. Mcvickar.
No; I suspect, that what I meant was, that he would be trained in electronics by the Soviets, but I think that this was a rather sketchy note of the conversation, and I suspect that what she would have said, was that he would be trained in or used in the field of electronics, in such a way probably that they would get the greatest benefit from his knowledge.
Mr. Coleman.
Sir, immediately prior to the time that you had the conversation with Miss Johnson, you had had occasion, hadn't you, on November 9, 1959, to attempt to deliver a message from Oswald's half brother to Oswald?
Mr. Mcvickar.
Yes; there is a note in the file to that effect, and I don't really remember that incident very well, just very vaguely. I think that I was given the assignment to attempt to deliver a message. I think the idea was that we would try to see what we could do to get this fellow to change his mind and go back to the United States.
The attitude that we took toward him was, I think, a normal one, as one might toward a very mixed up young person, probably misinformed, and so I think this was an effort to put him back in communication with his family.
Mr. Coleman.
I would like to show you a note from the Oswald file dated November 9, 1959, which has been given Commission Exhibit No. 942, and a copy of a telegram to Oswald from John E. Pic, which has been given Commission Exhibit No. 943, and ask you, is that the telegram you attempted to deliver, and is that the note you wrote at the time when you were unable to deliver the telegram to Oswald?
Mr. Mcvickar.
Yes; that is the note, and I don't necessarily recollect this telegram. It may be that it was in a sealed envelope. I cannot say that I recollect the telegram, but it certainly looks like the probable telegram that would have been delivered, that I would have attempted to deliver at that time.
Mr. Coleman.
I take it that after October 31 of 1959, until Oswald left Moscow, that you had no further contact with Oswald?
Mr. Mcvickar.
That is my recollection, yes, that I had no further contact with Oswald. I must say that a great many things did take place in that 2 years.
I, for example, did not recollect, until just the other day when I saw the file, that I had interviewed his wife. But to the best of my recollection I never laid eyes on Oswald again.
Mr. Coleman.
I think earlier in your testimony you said that you had prepared a memorandum on November 27, 1963, in which you attempted to recall what happened when you were in the American Embassy in 1959, 1960, and 1961, is that correct?
Mr. Mcvickar.
Yes.
Mr. Coleman.
A copy of the memorandum has been marked Commission Exhibit No. 941. I want to ask you whether that is a copy of the memorandum which you prepared, and sent to Mr. Thomas Ehrlich?
Mr. Mcvickar.
Yes; that is a copy of it.
Mr. Coleman.
Now in that memorandum, on the last page, page 3, the second paragraph, you say: "In short, it seemed to me that there was a possibility that he had been in contact with others before or during his Marine Corps tour who had guided him and encouraged him in his actions."
Could you indicate to the Commission the basis for making that statement?
Mr. Mcvickar.
Well, I think it is clear here, and if. it isn't I should certainly say, that this last page is in the nature of speculation and an attempt to be helpful.
Now in answer to your question, he gave me the impression, and this was supported by the impressions other people seemed to have at the time through conversation, that he was a very young person to have so many ideas in his head, and to have done so much about them, in effect, in such a relatively short time, and so it occurred to some of us that it may be that he had had
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