told them I thought they ought to let them bring it on up here that night and get it back the next night.
There was arguing over that. I am getting off, rambling around, but their argument over that was they were still trying to identify the gun through a pawn broker or something like that and the police wanted to keep it but I said, "Let it go up there and they said they would have it back the next afternoon."

Mr. Rankin.

Have you ever had any evidence that Oswald was involved with anyone else in actually shooting the President?

Mr. Wade.

Well, I will answer that the same way, I have absolutely no evidence myself.
Now, of course, I might have some type of opinion or some connection with reference to the Fair Play for Cuba and these letters that they told me about. If that was so there may have been some connection or may not, but I have no evidence myself on it.

Mr. Rankin.

Do you have any evidence as to whether Jack Ruby was involved with anyone else in the killing of Oswald?

Mr. Wade.

No, sir; I have no evidence on that. We have some and I think you have them all, some 8 or 10 witnesses who have said they had seen Ruby and Oswald together at various times.
Some of them were, I know one of them during the trial was a lawyer there in Dallas, which I presume you all got his four- page statement, said he heard them discussing killing Connally a week before then, came out to my house and that had been sent to the FBI, and that was during the trial, and I gave him a lie detector which showed that he didn't have, this was a fanciful thing.
That, I can't think of his name, some of you all may know it, but he is a lawyer there in Dallas.

Mr. Rankin.

You found that was not anything you could rely on.

Mr. Wade.

I didn't use him as a witness and after giving him the polygraph I was satisfied that he was imagining it. I think he was sincere, I don't think he was trying--I don't think he was trying to be a hero or anything. I think he really thought about it so much I think he thought that it happened, but the polygraph indicated otherwise.

Mr. Dulles.

Did you have any other evidence than the polygraph on this point that he was not telling the truth or that this was a fiction?

Mr. Wade.

No, but I didn't--but I did see a report where the FBI interviewed the gift that was allegedly with him in Ruby's place in October, and she didn't corroborate all of it. I think she did say he was in there but I am not even sure of that. I didn't interview her but I just read a report on it.
I read where they checked with the Department of Public Safety and they did not, were not able to---he said he reported all this to the Department of Public Safety, and I don't think they found any record, of him reporting it. It is very difficult to get him to come in to see me. He didn't just walk in, this went on for a month, I kept hearing that there was a certain person knew about it and I kept telling him to come on and talk to me and he finally came out to my house late one night.
The reason I think he actually must have thought it was so, but--I wasn't too interested in that theory of the case on this thing because I had a theory on this Ruby case from the start because I, even before you are going to get into some of these officers' testimony in a minute, but when ,this happened I was going home from church, and my own mind I said I believe that was Jack Ruby who shot him because from that Friday night, and from my theory has been from that Friday night, when he saw him there he made up his mind, to kill him if he got a chance and I have had that--I didn't even know about Dean's testimony which you are going to hear today, I didn't know about his testimony until the day before I put him on the stand because I had not been preparing the evidence, I had been picking a jury for 2 weeks but that was my theory from the start.
We had a waitress that I think you are all familiar with that was out at B&B Cafe at 3 a.m. on the 22d who said she served Ruby and Oswald there.
B&B Care on Oak Lane, I know you have got that, I have seen it somewhere.
I don't think she was ever give.n a polygraph test. You have about four homosexuals, I think that is probably the word, that have said they have seen them

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