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Warren Commission Hearings: Vol. III - Page 30« Previous | Next »

(Testimony of Ruth Hyde Paine Resumed)

Mrs. Paine.
That is my recollection of it; yes.
Mr. Jenner.
You never had any conversation with her up to the 23d or 22d of November on the subject of whether Lee had or had not been in Mexico?
Mrs. Paine.
We never had such a conversation.
Mr. Jenner.
Despite your having read that letter on the 10th of November in which he stated that he had been?
Mrs. Paine.
Yes. Now there was no occasion in that letter that she may have known that he went any more than there was certain indication to my mind that this was true and not false. Had I looked at the peso, this would have been the only occasion that she knew.
Mr. Jenner.
But the fact is, apart from your rationalization now there was no conversation on that subject?
Mrs. Paine.
That is right.
Mr. Jenner.
How long did he remain in your home?
Mrs. Paine.
Monday morning--
The Chairman.
Before you get to that, I want to ask a question about giving the blood that day. Did you give it for a particular person or for a blood bank?
Mrs. Paine.
It was for Marina. For each of the persons who come in under county care they ask you to donate two pints of blood, one at a time.
The Chairman.
I see. And you donated one pint for her?
Mrs. Paine.
Yes.
The Chairman.
Thank you.
Mr. Jenner.
How long did he remain in your home on this visit?
Mrs. Paine.
Until Monday morning, the 7th of October, almost noon, in fact, when I took him to an Intercity bus at the Irving bus station.
Mr. Jenner.
This is that bus terminal approximately 3 miles from your home?
Mrs. Paine.
That same day I gave him a map to assist him in job hunting.
Mr. Jenner.
All right. I would like to get to that.
I show you what is in evidence, I don't know whether it is received or not; it is a Commission Exhibit No. 128, and ask you if you have ever seen that before?
Mrs. Paine.
Yes; I have.
Mr. Jenner.
Is that the map to which you now have reference?
Mrs. Paine.
I would say it is.
Mr. Jenner.
What did you do with the map with respect to Lee Harvey Oswald on this occasion?
Mrs. Paine.
I don't recall who asked, who mentioned a map first, but, of course, I knew, and he did, that it would be a useful thing to have job hunting. I think he asked if I had a map of the city of Dallas and I said, yes, I did, and I can easily get another at the gas station, one of these.
Mr. Jenner.
Mrs. Paine, it is your clear recollection that this document, Commission Exhibit No. 128, a map, is the map that you gave Lee Harvey Oswald, this was October 7th?
Mrs. Paine.
It was certainly this kind of map, whether it is the identical map, I couldn't say for sure, but I much prefer the ENCO map of the city and this is the kind I always get to use. So this is the kind I had in mind.
Mr. Jenner.
So, to the best of your recollection, the coloring has been changed a little bit because of attempts to draw fingerprints from it?
Mrs. Paine.
Yes.
Mr. Jenner.
But your best recollection now, observing it, is that this is the document?
Mrs. Paine.
Yes.
Mr. Jenner.
Would you examine it carefully and see that there might be something on it that would arrest your attention as your having placed thereon or Lee?
Mrs. Paine.
I have examined this carefully and a copy of it.
Mr. Jenner.
On other occasions?
Mrs. Paine.
On other occasions, and I could not at any time find a marking that I had made.
Mr. Jenner.
Do you recall having made markings?
Mrs. Paine.
I do not recall having made any markings on this particular map. Sometime on some maps I knew I had made remarks where I was going.
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