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Warren Commission Hearings: Vol. III - Page 138« Previous | Next »

(Testimony of Ruth Hyde Paine Resumed)

Mrs. Paine.
That is what you call it, all right.
Mr. Jenner.
All right. Give the exhibit.
Mrs. Paine.
It is Exhibit No. 103.
Mr. Jenner.
Thank you.
Mrs. Paine.
I want to know whether you want to inquire of me my account of Secret Service agents having come and asked me, having come out to the house after the assassination to ask me if I had ever seen a particular note which they had. And I have later assumed that this is what has been referred to in the press as the note written by Oswald at the time of the attempt on Walker and if you want I will make it clear all I know in relation to that.
Mr. Jenner.
Yes; I recall that incident and I wish you would, please.
Mrs. Paine.
And then the other thing is simply to invite the members of the Commission, but if it is a deposition I can't do that then, to feel free to ask me any questions that are not settled in their mind or clear regarding the separation which existed between myself and my husband, if that is troublesome in any way or if there is anything in which--
Mr. Jenner.
Mrs. Paine, if that doesn't embarrass you, members of the Commission have voiced to me some interest in that, that is an interest only to the extent they are seeking to resolve in their mind who Ruth Paine is and if I may use the vernacular, what makes her tick, so would you relate that now on the Commission record, please?
Mrs. Paine.
All right. I might say that I think it is important and relevant here because if I had not been separated from my husband I would have not as I think I have already testified, made an invitation to anyone to join the family circle, especially in such a small house.
Really, I might ask if you have questions it might be easier for me to answer
Mr. Jenner.
Perhaps we can bring it along in this fashion. What was the cause of the separation between your husband and yourself, in your view?
Mrs. Paine.
In my view, of course, yes. He expressed himself as not really interested in remaining married to me. We never quarreled. We never indeed have had any serious difference of opinion except I want to live with him and he is not that interested in being with me, would be our single difference of opinion.
And in the spring of 1962 1 felt that something more definite should be done, and asked Michael why he continued to live with me if he felt that way about it, and he said that it was easier and cost less, and I said that wasn't a good enough reason for a marriage, and asked him to be out of the house in the fall when I returned from summer vacation that year.
Mr. Jenner.
That was 1962?
Mrs. Paine.
1962, yes. I would say our marriage is marked both by mutual honesty, that is exceptional, and by a lack of overt or interior strife except that it hasn't quite come together as a mutual partnership.
My mother recently said to me that "If you would just look only at what Michael does there is nothing wrong with your marriage at all. It is just what he says", and I concur with her opinion on that, that he is so scrupulously honest with his own feelings that, and really too hard on himself in a sense, that he states verbally this is not feeling that he loves me or loves me enough, but in fact his actions toward me are totally acceptable to me.
Mr. Jenner.
Is he gracious and kind and attentive to you?

Mrs. PAINE. Yes.
Mr. Jenner.
Has he always been?
Mrs. Paine.
Insufficiently attentive, I would say, but he is always kind and thoughtful.
Mr. Jenner.
Have you had any financial differences of opinion?

Mrs. PAINE. We have not.
Mr. Jenner.
He even during this period of time when you were separated, he voluntarily supported the household and you lived in a manner and style that suited you or to which you had become accustomed?
Mrs. Paine.
Yes, that is right.
Mr. Jenner.
You had no arguments about matters of that nature?
Mrs. Paine.
That is right.
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