Yes. But that I considered it something less than actually accurate to call such a person a Communist that went on being--
Senator COOPER. Other than the persons you have named in your testimony as having come to your house, was there anyone else who ever came to your house, who talked to Lee Oswald or Marina?

Mrs. Paine.

I recall no one other than the people I have mentioned, sir.
Senator COOPER. Knowing that he was as you have described in your own words, a Marxist, were you concerned at all about that or worried about that, as being in your home?

Mrs. Paine.

Well, as I have described in testimony, I asked myself whether or not he might be a spy. I was not at all worried about ideology contrary to my own or with which I disagreed, and it looked to me that he was a person of this ideology or philosophy which he calls Marxism, indeed nearly a religion.
But not that he was in any way dangerous because of these beliefs.
Senator COOPER. Thinking now and then that he might be a spy or in the employ of the Soviet Union, were you concerned about the fact that such person who might be a spy or an agent of the Soviet Union was living in your house?

Mrs. Paine.

Well, if you recall my testimony I concluded that he was not, and also I was pleased that the FBI had come and I felt that they would worry about that, and that I didn't need to worry about any risk to me of public censure for my befriending such a person.
Senator COOPER. You told about the newspapers and periodicals that he received and read.

Mrs. Paine.

Yes.
Senator COOPER. Did he also have any books that he read while he was at your house?

Mrs. Paine.

I don't recall his reading books while he was at my house. He watched television a great deal but I don't recall his reading books.
Senator COOPER. You said that he did not have very ample means, financial means.
Were you struck with the fact that he was able to have these newspapers sent to him from Russia, England, New York?

Mrs. Paine.

Yes, I observed--
Senator COOPER. The Communist Worker comes from New York.

Mrs. Paine.

Yes, nothing from England, I recall, but he certainly considered these valuable. He was willing to spend money on these, I observed that, yes. It was rather unusual or unlike the rest of his behavior in that he did spend money for these periodicals.
Senator COOPER. Did you ever lend any money to either Marina or Lee Oswald?

Mrs. Paine.

No.
Senator COOPER. What?

Mrs. Paine.

No.

Mr. Jenner.

Did you ever give them any money?

Mrs. Paine.

Cash money; no.
Senator COOPER. What?

Mrs. Paine.

Cash; no.
Of course, I bought groceries but that is not what you are asking.
Senator COOPER. You gave no money in the sense that you turned over physical possession of it?

Mrs. Paine.

I did not.
Senator COOPER. To either Lee or Marina?

Mrs. Paine.

No; not at any time to either one.
Senator COOPER. You did help them in the sense that you provided a home for Marina and on occasion provided food for Lee?

Mrs. Paine.

That is right.
Senator COOPER. 1 have just one or two more.
You said at one time you came to the conclusion that he wasn't an agent or spy because you didn't think he was intelligent enough.
I believe you said that.

Mrs. Paine.

That and the fact that as far as I could see had no contacts or any means of getting any information that would have been of any interest to the Soviet Union.

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