Mrs. Paine.

doing what he wanted in the situation, that he might be angry with me, and that I didn't want to subject myself or my children to possible harm from him.
She is the only person to whom I mentioned my thought that he might possibly be a person who could cause harm, and there was a very, not a strong thought in my thinking at all, but should be registered as having at least occurred to me, that he could be angry to the point of violence in relation to me.

Mr. Jenner.

To the point of physical violence in relation to you?

Mrs. Paine.

In relation to me in this situation and I wanted to be perfectly
sure before I made any offer definite that he was not, in fact, angry at my offer.

Mr. Jenner.

Do you recall visiting your sister Sylvia?

Mrs. Paine.

Yes; indeed.

Mr. Jenner.

You were there about 3 days?

Mrs. Paine.

Yes.

Mr. Jenner.

Did you discuss Marina when you were with your sister?

Mr. Paine.

Very probably.

Mr. Jenner.

And in substance did you say to your sister that you intended to go to New Orleans in the course of your trip within about 2 weeks to pick up Marina who was pregnant, she was the wife of an American, and she was to live with you in your home in Texas?

Did you say that much to her?

Mrs. Paine.

Well, I probably said it depended on whether she wanted to go.

Mr. Jenner.

Other than that have I stated the substance in that connection?

Mr. Paine.

Yes.

Mr. Jenner.

Did you also say to her that Marina wanted to leave her husband who was not supporting her, and was a jerk as far as his husband's role was concerned?

Mrs. Paine.

No.

Mr. Jenner.

You did not.

What did you say, did you say anything of similar import?

Mrs. Paine.

Similar?

Mr. Jenner.

That is, you did imply to your sister, did you, that Marina wished to leave Lee?

Mrs. Paine.

No. I would guess. that was her interpretation.

Mr. Jenner.

What did you say in this connection, please?

Mrs. Paine.

I don't recall exactly.

Mr. Jenner.

Well, did you say, did you express your personal opinion to your sister as to Lee Oswald?

Mrs. Paine.

Yes.

Mr. Jenner.

What did you say in that connection.

Mrs. Paine.

My opinion of Lee Oswald was quite negative all the way up to--

This is what you have told your sister now, that is what I want. I can't recall exactly what I told my sister at all.

Mr. Jenner.

Yes.

Mrs. Paine.

I talked with virtually everyone I saw this summer, and there were a great many people, about this friend because it was important to me. I have already testified that I thought Lee didn't care enough about his wife and wasn't being a proper husband in the spring and through the summer, therefore, and it wasn't until I was in New Orleans that I thought he cared at all.

Mr. Jenner.

I am just confining myself to this period. During this period as you visited your friends you did have occasion to express a negative opinion on your part with respect to Lee Oswald?

Mrs. Paine.

Indeed.

Mr. Jenner.

Is that correct?

Mrs. Paine.

That is correct.

Mr. Jenner.

It might have been more or less forceful in that expression of your opinion depending on the person with whom or to whom you were talking.

Mrs. Paine.

I would say that my sister's reaction to what I said was more forceful than what I said.

Mr. Jenner.

But you did express a negative opinion.

Mrs. Paine.

Yes.