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Warren Commission Hearings: Vol. II - Page 509« Previous | Next »

(Testimony of Ruth Hyde Paine Resumed)

Mrs. Paine.
I formed many, and I would like to make that a special area.
Representative Boggs.
Would you just tell me just in a sentence or two, know you could go into it in greater detail, but was your opinion favorable? Was it unfavorable, or what?
Mrs. Paine.
I disliked him actively in the spring when I thought he just wanted to get rid of his wife and wasn't caring about her, wasn't concerned whether she would go to the doctor. I then found him much nicer, I thought, when I saw him next in New Orleans in late September, and this would be a perfectly good time to admit the rest of the pertinent part of this letter to my mother written October 14, because it shows something that I think should be part of the public record, and I am one of the few people who can give it, that presents Lee Oswald as a human person, a person really rather ordinary, not an ogre that was out to leave his wife, and be harsh and hostile to all that he knew.
But in this brief period during the times that he came out on weekends, I saw him as a person who cared for his wife and his child, tried to make himself helpful in my home, tried to make himself welcome although he really preferred to stay to himself.
He wasn't much to take up a conversation. This says, "Dear More," this is from Commission Exhibit No. 425, "Lee Oswald is looking for work in Dallas. Did my last letter say so? Probably not. He arrived a week and a half ago and has been looking for work since. It is a very depressing business for him, am sure. He spent last weekend and the one before with us here and was a happy addition to our expanded family. He played with Chris"--my 3-year-old, then 2-- "watched football on the TV, planed down the doors that wouldn't close, they had shifted and generally added a needed masculine flavor"----
Mr. Jenner.
Wait a second.
Mrs. Paine.
"And generally added a needed masculine flavor. From a poor first impression I have come to like him. We saw the doctor at Parkland Hospital last Friday and all seems very healthy" and this refers to Marina. "It appears that charges will be geared to their ability to pay."
Representative Boggs.
Were you----
Mrs. Paine.
May I go on?
Representative Boggs.
Yes; surely. Finish.
Mrs. Paine.
This was an intervening section where he was the most human that I saw him, and, of course, it has been followed by my anger with him, and all the feeling that most of us have about his act. But it seems to me important, very important, to the record that we face the fact that this man was not only human but a rather ordinary one in many respects, and who appeared ordinary.
If we think that this was a man such as we might never meet, a great aberration from the normal, someone who would stand out in a crowd as unusual. then we don't know this man, we have no means of recognizing such a person again in advance of a crime such as he committed.

The important thing, I feel, and the only protection we have is to realize how human he was though he added to it this sudden and great violence beyond-----
Representative Boggs.
You have no doubt about the fact that he assassinated President Kennedy?
Mrs. Paine.
I have no present doubt.
Representative Boggs.
Do you have any reason to believe he was associated with anyone else in this act or it was part of a conspiracy?
Mrs. Paine.
I have no reason to believe he was associated with anyone.
Representative Boggs.
Did you ever see him talking with anyone else, in conversation with anybody else or get mail at your home?
Mrs. Paine.
I never saw him talking with anyone else. He received all his mail from home, third class for the most part perhaps one letter from Russia.
Representative Boggs.
Did he have telephone calls at your home of a mysterious nature?
Mrs. Paine.
No.
Mr. Jenner.
Excuse me, did he ever have a telephone call at your home mysterious or otherwise?
Mrs. Paine.
No; never.
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