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Warren Commission Hearings: Vol. II - Page 416« Previous | Next »

(Testimony of Michael R. Paine)

Mr. Liebeler.
Yes; I think the witness testified it was either late September or early October of 1963.
I show you a blanket which has been marked as Commission Exhibit 140 and ask you if that is the blanket you saw in the garage?
Mr. Paine.
This looks a little cleaner, of course. I was there in the night, and I also put the thing on the floor thinking it was rustic equipment and that sawdust wouldn't hurt it.
I also was concerned with moisture. This is very close to what I remember. Yesterday in my testimony I had a desire to add blue to the colors of brown and green. Last night I remembered that Thanksgiving weekend I had bought another rustic blanket of a similar nature which had blue in it, which is why I tried to get blue into the blanket.
Mr. Liebeler.
Are you able to say at this time positively that this was the blanket that you saw in your garage and that you moved on various occasions in October and possibly November of 1963?
Mr. Paine.
I didn't notice the particular design so I can't--it is a very good representative of what I remember.
Mr. LIEBELER, Do you remember the texture of the blanket?
Mr. Paine.
The texture. I felt it, of course, these several times and the texture is the same.
Mr. Liebeler.
Was the package wrapped securely when it was in your garage?
Mr. Paine.
I had the impression--yes, it was. The whole package was stiff. There was no shaking of the parts, and I had the impression it was wrapped with about two strings.
Mr. Liebeler.
I now show you Commission Exhibit 139, which is a rifle that was found in the Texas School Book Depository Building, and ask you if you at any time ever saw this rifle prior to November 22, 1963?
Mr. Paine.
I did not,
Mr. Liebeler.
Have you seen it since that time and prior to yesterday?
Mr. Paine.
I saw a rifle being shown to Marina in an adjoining cubicle with a glass wall between us.
Mr. Liebeler.
When was that?
Mr. Paine.
That was the night of the 22d.
Mr. Liebeler.
Have you ever seen this leather strap that is attached to the rifle.
Mr. Paine.
I have not seen that strap.
Mr. Liebeler.
Have you ever seen a strap like this strap?
Mr. Paine.
Or anything like it.
Mr. Liebeler.
Have you any idea where this strap could have come from?
Mr. Paine.
I don't.
Mr. Dulles.
May I ask in that connection, was this just loosely wound up in that blanket or was there some string around it or--
Mr. Paine.
I had the impression there were about two strings on the thing. It wouldn't--also, I didn't think you could look into the package readily.
Mr. Dulles.
You would have to take something off, some string or something in order, to get into the package?
Mr. Paine.
Yes.
Mr. Liebeler.
I now show you Commission Exhibit 364 which is a replica of a sack which was prepared by authorities in Dallas, and I also show you another sack which is Commission Exhibit 142, and ask you if you have ever seen in or around your garage in Irving, Tex., any sacks similar to those?
Mr. Paine.
No; I haven't.
Mr. Liebeler.
Have you seen any paper in your garage in Irving prior to November 22, 1963, or at any other place, at your home in Irving, Tex., that is similar to the paper of which those sacks are made?
Mr. Paine.
No, I haven't; we have some rugs, most of them are wrapped in polyethylene. I couldn't be sure that one of the smaller ones wasn't wrapped in paper. To my knowledge, we had no free kraft paper of that size.
Mr. Liebeler.
Will you examine the tape on the sacks and tell me whether you have any tape similar to that or whether you have seen any tape similar to that in your garage before November 22, 1963?
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