Mr. Gregory.

it would be, if they would be, at home, that my son and I would come out to visit them, and we did. I don't remember the date but it must have been within possibly within 10 days, the first 10 days after his initial contact with me at the office.

Mr. Liebeler.

Let us try to set the date of your initial contact. I have here a copy, not a confirmed copy, but just a typewritten copy of a letter entitled "To Whom it May Concern." I show it to you and ask you if that is the letter to the best of your recollection that you gave to Mr. Oswald?

Mr. Gregory.

I think that is a copy of the letter I gave. That was on June 19, 1962.

Mr. Liebeler.

I ask that it be admitted in evidence and marked as the next exhibit.

The Chairman.

It may be marked. It will be marked as Exhibit 384.
Very well, it is admitted as Exhibit 384.
(The letter referred to was marked Commission Exhibit No. 384 for identification and received in evidence.)

Mr. Gregory.

I would hazard a guess that the second contact with Lee Oswald that I just referred to was made, say, around the 25th, toward the end of June 1962.

Mr. Liebeler.

And you went to see him at his brother's house?

Mr. Gregory.

At his brother Robert's, Robert Oswald's house. Paul and I spent there perhaps an hour, speaking Russian with Marina, and mostly with Marina. They showed some pictures, snapshots of their friends, of themselves, taken in Minsk. We talked about the living conditions, just in a very general way.

Mr. Liebeler.

Did you discuss politics with Mr. Oswald?

Mr. Gregory.

No, sir; we did not.

Mr. Liebeler.

Did you discuss politics with him at any time?

Mr. Gregory.

Not with Lee Oswald, no.

Mr. Liebeler.

Did you get the impression from just talking to the Oswalds at this time that Oswald was treated pretty much as other Russians were in Russia or did you think he had a special situation there in any way?

Mr. Gregory.

My personal impression was that he was treated there as the rest of the Russians.

Mr. Liebeler.

Did your son subsequently have additional contacts with the Oswalds?

Mr. Gregory.

Yes. He and I made arrangements for Marina Oswald to give him lessons, conversational lessons, I believe it was twice a week, and Paul paid her for these lessons. I don't remember the exact amount, whether it came under the minimum or not, it was around a dollar and a half an hour. And he took those lessons after he made a visit to his aunt in San Francisco in July of 1962. So, I would say that he took lessons from Marina Oswald, say, from approximately August 1 to September 15 when he went back to the university of Oklahoma.

Mr. Liebeler.

Do you remember when the last contact was that your son had with the Oswalds?

Mr. Gregory.

To the best of my knowledge his last contact with them was the Thanksgiving Day of 1962.

Mr. Liebeler.

Did your son tell you whether he had discussions with Oswald concerning politics and economics and things like that?

Mr. Gregory.

He mentioned once, I believe, that there were political discussions.

Mr. Liebeler.

What did he tell you about that?

Mr. Gregory.

He told me that he thought Lee Oswald was pretty silly in his views.

The Chairman.

Pretty silly?

Mr. Gregory.

Silly.

The Chairman.

Silly.

Mr. Liebeler.

Did he express any other--

Mr. Gregory.

He also mentioned that he saw some book on Marxism, whether it was Das Kapital or some other book I don't recall now, but he saw a book