Mr. Rowland.

The time factor, the time that we arrived in town. Here again it states 12:10. Now this is the time that we arrived at the position that we Stayed at, not the time we arrived in town, and the distance the man was back from the window. Here it states 12 to 15 feet. I do not remember saying that although I very well could have. Everything was confusing.

Mr. Specter.

But what is your current recollection on the distance that the man was back from the window?

Mr. Rowland.

Three to four, five feet, somewhere in that neighborhood. He wasn't very far. Far enough for the sunlight to hit him and at the angle the sun was that wouldn't be very far.

Mr. Specter.

Now noticing that the date on that statement is November 24, 1963, does that appear to you to be the date when that statement was taken, or was it taken on the 23d, the day after the assassination?

Mr. Rowland.

It was Saturday morning, the 24th.

Mr. Specter.

On what day was the assassination?

Mr. Rowland.

It was Thursday, wasn't it?

Mr. Specter.

No; the assassination occurred on Friday.

Mr. Rowland.

I am sorry, that is right. It is so confused in this.

Mr. Specter.

Well, was the statement taken the second day after the assassination or the morning of the first day after the assassination?

Mr. Rowland.

No; it was ,taken on Saturday morning before I went to work because on Sunday there was another statement taken from me at my job where I was working. This occurred right after Oswald was shot himself.

Mr. Specter.

Well, are you able to identify that statement which we have marked Exhibit 358, as the statement taken on Saturday, the 23d, as distinguished from the statement taken on Sunday, the 24th of November?

Mr. Rowland.

Yes.

Mr. Specter.

How can you be certain of that, Mr. Rowland?

Mr. Rowland.

The one on Sunday, this particular one, I do remember the agent used a legal pad. He did have three pages of it handwritten. made corrections on this in different parts of it The one on Sunday was not a legal pad. It was a steno pad and it, in fact, covered a page and a half, I think, and it was concerned with mainly could I identify the man that I saw, his description.

Mr. Specter.

Now, at the time you made the Saturday statement, which you say was transcribed and appears as Exhibit 358, did you at that time tell the interviewing FBI agents about the colored gentleman who you testified was in the window which you marked with an "A"?

Mr. Rowland.

Yes; I did.

Mr. Specter.

Did you ask them at that time to include the information in the statement which they took from you?

Mr. Rowland.

No. I think I told them about it after the statement, as an afterthought, an afterthought came up, it came into my mind. I also told the agents that took a statement from me on Sunday. They didn't seem very interested, so I just forgot about it for a while.

Mr. Specter.

Was that information included in the written portion of the statement which was taken from you on Sunday?

Mr. Rowland.

No, it wasn't. It shouldn't but the agent deleted it though himself, I mean I included it in what I gave.

Mr. Specter.

When you say deleted it, did he strike it out after putting it in, or did he omit it in the transcription?

Mr. Rowland.

Omitted it.
Senator COOPER. I think you said a while ago that when you told the FBI agents on Saturday that you had seen this Negro man in the window, that they indicated to you that they weren't interested in it at all. What did they say which gave you that impression?

Mr. Rowland.

I don't remember exactly what was said. The context was again the agents were trying to find out if I could positively identify the man that I saw. They were concerned mainly with this, and I brought up to them about the Negro man after I had signed the statement, and at that time he just told me that they were just trying to find out about or if anyone