Mr. Jenner.

you relied upon in connection with your statement of his having been sent to Dallas in the first place? Mr. OLIVER. Right.

Mr. Jenner.

And I continue the quote, "Where a job in a suitably located building had been arranged for him." What did you intend to imply by the statement that a suitably--"where a job in a suitably located building had been arranged for him." Who arranged it and what is the source of your information?

Mr. Oliver.

The statement that this building is suitably located is an inference from the fact that it was, (a) on what proved eventually to be the route of Presidential procession and, (b) that it was one of the very few buildings to be formal in any town in which a man on the upper floor could be virtually certain of being unobserved because those upper floors were storage spaces, and the storage spaces so arranged that there would be no clear view from one end of the floor to the other.

Mr. Jenner.

I take it the source of your information, that is upon which you base the statement was again newspaper reports or--

Mr. Oliver.

Concerning the building and newspaper reports concerning the arrangement of the job for him, newspaper reports plus reports from Mr. Capell, I believe that is all.

Mr. Jenner.

By whom had the job been arranged? What was your source as to that?

Mr. Oliver.

It appears that the intervention which procured the job for him is attributed to a Mrs. Paine. There were--

Mr. Jenner.

Mrs. Michael R.; Ruth Paine.

Mr. Oliver.

Ruth Paine; yes. There were some earlier rumors concerning the way in Which he obtained the position, but I believe that at the time I wrote those had been superseded by the knowledge that Mrs. Paine had--by the report that Mrs. Paine had given him a very strong recommendation for the job.

Mr. Jenner.

What are you advised as to how that took place, Doctor, and when ?

Mr. Oliver.

As I recall, it took place 2 or 3 days after Oswald failed to obtain a job in a printing firm whose name does not come to my mind at the moment. He was refused a job there, as I understand it, because he naturally had to present his social security papers which contained his correct name, and the proprietor ascertained that Oswald had Communist connections and, therefore, refused him the position. As I understand it, he got the position in the School Depository, I believe 3 days later.

Mr. Jenner.

What is the source of your information ?

Mr. Oliver.

Here I believe I rely on Mr. Capell and some confirmation from a number of people in .and about Dallas with whom I discussed the matter. However, as I recall, those discussions took place after I wrote the article. I can't be quite certain but I believe they did.

Mr. Jenner.

When you refer to Mr. Capell, I take it you are referring to

Mr. Oliver.

To Mr. Frank Capell.

Mr. Jenner.

Mr. Frank Capell, and in particular to releases or bulletins or writings of his which came to your attention as distinguished from personal conferences?

Mr. Oliver.

I would rely primarily on personal conferences. Mr. Capell is the publisher of a periodical called the Herald of Freedom.

Mr. Jenner.

The Herald of Freedom?

Mr. Oliver.

Right.

Mr. Jenner.

Where is that published?

Mr. Oliver.

In Staten Island in New York.

Mr. Jenner.

Are you a subscriber to the Herald of Freedom, did you say ?

Mr. Oliver.

Yes; I subscribe to a considerable number of periodicals, in fact too many.

Mr. Jenner.

I wouldn't doubt it.

Mr. Oliver.

But Mr. Capell does serve as a research consultant for me.

Mr. Jenner.

But at the time you made the statement as published in your. article you were relying on what source and what source alone?

Mr. Oliver.

I would not say on any source alone. There were news reports as to how Oswald had obtained his job. There were further the reports from