Mr. Jenner.

I should say that the picture representation on page 13 of Exhibit 2, and the picture representation on 65 is in each instance your picture?

Mr. Oliver.

That is right.

Mr. Jenner.

I will asd you a general question first. If you want to particularize you may. I will tell you that I will get into particulars as we go along. What was the source, or what were the sources, if there was more than one source, of the statements and claims made in your article. When I say 'your article' I mean both parts, unless I distinguish.

Mr. Oliver.

Statements which I make as statements of fact or of reports are taken very largely, perhaps entirely, from printed sources, such as newspapers, periodicals.
The portions in which I reason from those facts are, of course, the deductions which I draw.

Mr. Jenner.

Do the articles indicate when you are reasoning and when you are referring to sources?

Mr. Oliver.

I believe so with at least reasonable clarity. It was my intention to make that clear.

Mr. Jenner.

I take it then that none of the portions of the article is derived from any personal source of information upon your part, that is personal knowledge as distinguished from reference sources that you have described to me.

Mr. Oliver.

Certainly nothing concerning the assassination is derived from any personal knowledge of mine. I was not present, and as a matter of fact, have seen none of the persons involved. By "seen," of course, I mean seen personally, not in pictures or films.

Mr. Jenner.

All right.
I direct your attention to part I, on page 13. You make the statement, "Lee Harvey Oswald was a young punk who defected to the Soviet taking with him the operational codes of the Marine Corps and sufficient other secrets as a fledgling traitor had been able to steal while in military service."
What is the source of your statement that Lee Harvey Oswald took with him or even had the operational codes of the Marine Corps?

Mr. Oliver.

The principal source certainly is a statement made by a former officer of the Marine Corps and reported widely in the press at the time, that after Oswald's defection the Marine Corps found it necessary to change all of their operational codes, and further had to make certain other changes evidently involving radar frequencies, and quite possible the location of radar stations.
The officer, naturally, was not too explicit on that point. He stated, however, that this work involved, I believe, many thousands of man-hours of work.
Well, I think that a reasonably inference is that no organization would expend without reason the many thousands of man-hours of hard work and the other effort and expensse that would be necessary to make those changes without good and sufficient reasons to believe that their codes had been compromised.

Mr. Jenner.

I take it then that the source of your information, to pinpoint it, was a newspaper report?

Mr. Oliver.

That is right.

Mr. Jenner.

Of a statement made by an officer of the Marine Corps?

Mr. Oliver.

That is right.

Mr. Jenner.

That was your sole source of information?

Mr. Oliver.

To the best of my recolliction it was.

Mr. Jenner.

Do you happen to have a copy of that newspaper account? Did you bring one with you by any chance?

Mr. Oliver.

I believe that I have. You people have the American Eagle reprint of the assassination story, do you not?

Mr. Jenner.

Would you describe that more definitely for the record?

Mr. Oliver.

The American Eagle reprint is a reprint by photo offset of clippings from the two Dallas newspapers and, I believe, possible two other sources.

Mr. Jenner.

May I interrupt you? Now I know what you are talking about.

Mr. Oliver.

Yes.

Mr. Jenner.

It is published by the American Eagle Publishing Co.

Mr. Oliver.

That is right.

Mr. Jenner.

Of which Robert A. Surrey is president?