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Warren Commission Hearings: Vol. XV - Page 625« Previous | Next »

(Testimony of Lawrence V. Meyers)

Mr. Griffin.
Do you remember the name Joyce McDonald ?
Mr. Meyers.
The last name would mean absolutely nothing to me.
Mr. Griffin.
Do you remember the name Joy Dale?
Mr. Meyers.
That is the girl. The Dale name brought back the name. That was it.
Mr. Griffin.
Tell us about that.
Mr. Meyers.
A tall blonde. Well, what happened, he introduced me to her In his club that evening and we talked about various things and among the things we talked about--gee, this all comes back to me now--she was working during the day at the Texas State Fair for a concession who were demonstrating the methods they used to make a movie or make a motion picture, and according to--I am sorry.
Mr. Griffin.
Was this a show by the name of "How Hollywood Makes Movies?"
Mr. Meyer.
It could have been. I don't know. It had to do with breakaway Chairs and--I never saw the show. Let me tell you this right now. And you will appreciate why, when I get to the rest.
She told me that these fellows had a very good thing going. It was going to make a lot of money, blah, blab, and so on and so forth. But they were going to be closed up the next day or the day after due to the fact that they were unable to pay either the rent for the tent that they were in or some of their help who was going to quit on them the next day. I don't remember. Something of this type. And the question arose whether I could help them get over this period and I asked them what would be involved and she said, I think she said, $200. I am not sure. Well, it so happened that that next day I had to go back to Chicago, I believe. So I said, well, Joy, I will tell you what I will do. If this thing is as good as you say it is, I have thrown $200 down the drain a number of times, and maybe I can do some good with this $200. So I said what time will you be out there the next day, and she said she would be there---now here again I am guessing, I don't remember the hours but it was afternoon, somewhere about 2 o'clock or something, and I said, well, I will tell you, I am going to--I think I have reservations on the 4 o'clock flight or something like that to go back to Chicago. I said, I will run out there and I will look at this thing and if it looks anywhere near what it should be, I will stake you to this money. And I did.
I went out there and--as a matter of fact, I got there before she did. She was late. And she introduced me to two men whose names I absolutely cannot remember who were running this concession and we talked a little while. We had some coffee at a little coffee stand fight near there. And it seemed that they needed $200 to get over this thing. So I said to Joy, I will tell you what I will do. I will give you a check for $200, and if I remember, I think I made the check out to Jack Ruby. I don't remember. I said, I will give you this check for $200 and you go ahead and get them over the hump and in time, you will see me sometime around the country, or they will, blah, blah, and all kinds of thank you's were said and I gave them the check. She said where should she cash the check. I said give the check to Jack. He knows me well enough. I am sure he will know where to cash it. I am sure she did. That is how I got the check back. I hear since he never got the $200, that Jack had loaned them $100 and he took $100 of this $200 for himself to pay himself back, and I think she took the other hundred because as I have the story, one of her children had perhaps some had to have some medical treatments and minor surgery, or something. So again I had thrown $200 down the drain. That is it.
Mr. Griffin.
Do you recall the next time that you saw Jack Ruby after that episode ?
Mr. Meyers.
If you will tell me the day that this happened evidently you have this information. If you will tell me when this happened it might bring it back a little.
Mr. Griffin.
This probably would have been in the first two weeks of October.
Mr. Meyers.
First 2 weeks of October?
Mr. Griffin.
Of 1963.
Mr. Meyers.
I don't know. I am guessing again. I suppose the next time was the middle of November, the latter part of November, unless I had occasion to go to Dallas sooner than that, I really don't remember.
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