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Warren Commission Hearings: Vol. XV - Page 429« Previous | Next »

(Testimony of Nancy Monnell Powell)

Mr. Griffin.
Do you have any information as to how Jack got into the basement of the police department?
Mrs. Powell.
No; but he could get in anywhere.
Mr. Griffin.
Do you have any information that anybody helped him?
Mrs. Powell.
No; I don't think anybody helped him. You just have to know him. He is probably a lot different now than he was, but if you had known him the way I knew him, and a lot of people knew him, he would do anything. They would have a ball game here every year, Texas-Oklahoma, and it sold out a year in advance, and all the tickets are sold the day before the game and he said, "I am going to the Texas-O.U. game."
And I said, "How will you get in?"
And he said, "I will get in."
And they are taking this guy off to jail, and as he passes by, the guy hands him the ticket, and they are selling the tickets for $25 apiece, and you can't get them.
Mr. Griffin.
Do you have any information as to anything he told about what he planned to do?
Mrs. Powell.
No.
Mr. Griffin.
Did Ralph ever say anything which indicated--
Mrs. Powell.
Ralph did not know. I know that Ralph didn't know he was planning to do that, or Ralph would have tried to stop him. I know Ralph felt badly because Jack wanted to go out and he didn't go, and then he felt badly because he felt like if he had gone, maybe Jack would have confided in him and he could have prevented it.
Mr. Griffin.
How about Little Lynn?
Mrs. Powell.
She didn't know anything.
Mr. Griffin.
What makes you say that?
Mrs. Powell.
Because after she spoke to Jack, on the way home she didn't offer any comments or anything about why she thought he was acting that way. She didn't know any more than anybody else.
Mr. Griffin.
She hadn't told you that she learned anything later after she left you?
Mrs. Powell.
No; she hadn't. I don't know where she learned it from, because I took her home, and they don't have a car, and it was 12 o'clock and the buses. weren't running.
Mr. Griffin.
I am going to ask you if this diagram, which I have previously marked as Exhibit No. 1, is a reasonably accurate diagram, if you will sign that?
Mrs. Powell.
Do you want me to sign Nancy Powell or Tammi True?
Mr. Griffin.
Which name do you like to sign?
Mrs. Powell.
It doesn't make any difference to me.
Mr. Griffin.
Why don't you sign Nancy Powell.
Mrs. Powell.
Mr. Griffin.
Is there anything else, Nancy, that you think we haven't covered that might be of use to us?
Mrs. Powell.
I don't know. We've spent a lot of time here.
Mr. Griffin.
Who was the girl that Jack thought had class?
Mrs. Powell.
Bell Praperall, was the girl he thought had so much class. And she came up to the club the last time I saw her, and she was drunk out of her mind, talking terribly vulgar, like some streetwalker, but this girl had class. She did. But Jack made the mistake of telling her that she had class, and boy, I am telling you, she talked there around like something else, but she didn't end up with much class.
Mr. Griffin.
Let me ask you to do one more thing. I am going to hand you what I have marked as Nancy Powell Deposition, July 25, 1964, Exhibit No. 2. It is a copy of an interview that two FBI agents, Glenn Silvi and Dave Byerly had with you on November 29, 1963, in Oklahoma City. I want to hand it to you and ask you to read it and tell us whether that is an accurate report of what you told them on that occasion?
Mrs. Powell.
(reading report). Well, I didn't say that he had never associated. We went into discussion about these carnival people, and he had some dealings with some carnival people at one time. But I mean--
Mr. Griffin.
You are referring to the sentence that says, "She said Ruby was
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