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Warren Commission Hearings: Vol. XV - Page 337« Previous | Next »

(Testimony of Eva L. Grant)

Mrs. Grant.
Now, the next day, he called me sometime in the afternoon. He came over about 3:40. He says, "I went to a mailbox." He said that in the middle of the night he took pictures, and he told me a bunch of stories. And in his mind, Bernard Weissman was a gentile using a Jewish name to implicate the Jews again and all this business. I said, "He is probably some Commie." And while in my home, and this I heard, he called Stanley Kaufman. And I don't know what went on on the other side, and he is telling him this, he says, "He is out of town, but I am going to take this to the FBI." And I asked him during that time, I said, "What are you going to do with it?"
There were a lot of things that happened Friday and Saturday. I am not smart about politics or the phrases they use always, whether they are right or wrong. He said, "I got a scoop for Gordon." And I said, "What are you going to do with it?" And he said, "I am going to take it Monday to give it to the FBI." And I thought he said it said, "Impeach Earl Warren."
Mr. Griffin.
Did he know who Earl Warren was?
Mrs. Grant.
Oh, yes; he is quite familiar with the position he holds in the United States.
Mr. Grant.
Did he know at that time who he was?
Mrs. Grant.
I am sure he did.
Mr. Griffin.
Do you remember him making a telephone call to Russ Knight from your apartment Saturday?
Mrs. Grant.
Now, let me tell you, I know he called him. No; I know he called Stanley. This, I swear my life. He may have. I don't want to be held responsible for saying that he did or didn't.
Mr. Griffin.
All I ask is if you remember?
Mrs. Grant.
No; Sir, but he made calls.
Mr. Griffin.
Who do you remember him calling from your apartment on Saturday?
Mrs. Grant.
I know in this conversation he said this, "I went all through the telephone book and I went along Oak Cliff Avenue, and I even went to the city directory." Now, whether I had said something to him earlier or then, or what, but I figured that would be the police. It is in the back of my mind. I said something, whether I was telling him to go, or he told me he had been, I don't know.
Mr. Griffin.
Who was he telling this bit about?
Mrs. Grant.
He was telling, mostly he talked, I would say, 15 minutes anyway to Stanley Kaufman, his attorney here in town.
Mr. Griffin.
About the city directory?
Mrs. Grant.
I don't know about that, but I know we talked about it. He said he was looking for Bernard Weissman.
Mr. Griffin.
Where?
Mrs. Grant.
You messed up on a lot of stuff that went on Friday.
Mr. Griffin.
Did it take place in your presence?
Mrs. Grant.
This conversation was made in front of me, and this is what I heard.
Mr. Griffin.
Have you missed anything on Friday that took place in your presence?
Mrs. Grant.
Well, Betty Gouchuin came with the newspaper on Friday morning at 10 a.m.
Mr. Griffin.
We covered that.
Mrs. Grant.
Even the second time after the conversation, and while he wasn't there, I read the darn thing, and I am going to tell you the truth, I am not smart enough to detect if there is any animosity. It is like we sent wheat to Russia.
Mr. Griffin.
Did he talk--
Mrs. Grant.
He asked me did I see the ad, and I said, "Yes, but I didn't like it. I looked at it." And since he has already been fed up and fouled up in the newspaper office, when he came Friday he brought me back .the .morning paper and the evening paper with "The President is dead," and he said, "Look at it." He said different things like, "Any other city would be honored to have him visit them. Of all the cities in the United States to have the President to come here."
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