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Warren Commission Hearings: Vol. XV - Page 196« Previous | Next »

(Testimony of Marjorie R. Richey)

Mrs. Richey.
Oh, definitely; yes.
Mr. Griffin.
Let me ask you. Some people I think perhaps who knew Jack were upset and nervous and perhaps didn't really remember accurately, weren't able to accurately state what did happen when they were first interviewed. Were you so nervous and upset about it that you wouldn't have remembered accurately on the 26th of November what you had done on Saturday? What was your state of mind?
Mrs. Richey.
I was pretty shaken up, I know that. It is a pretty terrible thing to have happened, so close to you, you just don't think it can.
Mr. Griffin.
Let me mark for identification here what is a report of an interview which two agents of the FBI, Peggs and Zimmerman, had with you on November 26. I am going to mark that Marjorie R. Richey Deposition Exhibit No. 1, July 21, 1964, Washington, D.C.
(The document referred to was marked Marjorie R. Richey Deposition Exhibit No. 1 for identification.)
Mr. Griffin.
I will give you a chance to read it. Look that over and see if that interview report refreshes your recollection in any way.
Mrs. Richey.
I don't believe I said "several years ago."
Mr. Griffin.
Would you read the sentence that you are referring to?
Mrs. Richey.
It says:
"Mrs. Ethier has been working at the Carousel since"--no, that is wrong. "She first met Jack Ruby several years ago through her sister."
I don't think I said several years ago, because I know now I might have said that but I know that it wasn't several years, I am sure.
Mr. Griffin.
How long before the 22d of November, 1963, did you think you met Jack?
Mrs. Richey.
About a year before that, because Janice, we call her Nice and Janice had been working there for about a year I think. Now these aren't accurate dates, but about a year. I don't believe I said several years. I may have. I mean like you said I might have been upset and I was nervous. As far as I know except for that "several years" that is right.
Mr. Griffin.
Then is it your best recollection at this time that it is accurate that you called Jack Ruby about noon on Saturday?
Mrs. Richey.
That is something else I can't be sure about. It may have been noon. I just don't remember. To me it seemed later than that, but it may not have been.
Mr. Griffin.
Now how long did you talk with Jack on that occasion?
Mrs. Richey.
Not but just a few minutes.
Mr. Griffin.
Do you remember anything he said to you?
Mrs. Richey.
I remember I called him and I said, "Jack, this is Margie." He said, "Yes." and I said, "Could you tell me if we are going to be open tonight?" and he said, "No, isn't it terrible?" and I said, "Do you mean about the President?" and he said, "Yes." and his voice was shaking and this isn't like him.
I mean it really was. And then I said, "Well, we are not going to be open." because I didn't want to go into it because that is what everybody was talking about, and I, you know. So then he said, "No, we won't be open tonight or tomorrow night."
"Sunday night" I believe is what he said. We were always open 7 days a week and this was unusual to me because Jack very seldom ever closed the club. So I mean this is why I can pretty well remember this. I could see him staying closed one night, but the other two clubs in Dallas were opening, so I figured you know that he would.
Mr. Griffin.
How did you know that they were?
Mrs. Richey.
It was in the paper.
Mr. Griffin.
Had you checked the newspaper before you called him?
Mrs. Richey.
I don't remember that. I must have.
Mr. Griffin.
In Irving do you get a Dallas paper?
Mrs. Richey.
Yes.
Mr. Griffin.
Did you subscribe to a Dallas paper at that time?
Mrs. Richey.
I can't remember that. I lived with my parents at the time that this happened, and if there was a Dallas morning newspaper there, well
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