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Warren Commission Hearings: Vol. XV - Page 188« Previous | Next »

(Testimony of Cecil E. Talbert)

Mr. Hubert.
Captain TALBERT. I had several conversations from Parkland Hospital on the telephone after the shooting of Oswald.
Mr. Hubert.
Would you tell us about them, please?
Captain TALBERT. Well, I was at Parkland to clear the hospital and make sure that the chaos or confusion didn't transmit into the hospital itself, and also secure the area where the prisoner 'was being operated on. And the Governor was there. There was a peculiar situation in that he was on the same floor in close proximity to the operating room where Oswald was being operated on. I was trying to get all the confusion away from the room he was in. He was in the intensive care room. As soon as personnel was placed, I started making telephone calls trying to check to find out how the fellow got in the basement, the fellow being referred to, of course, as Ruby. And I don't recall a specific conversation with Lieutenant Pierce, although I am sure I did talk to him.
Mr. Hubert.
Do you recall anyone else you spoke to?
Captain. TALBERT. Yes, sir.
Mr. Hubert.
Who would that be?
Captain TALBERT. I spoke to R. E. Vaughn. I spoke to Nelson. I spoke to, I believe, now let me see, I think I got a hold of Jez who was on the Commerce Street entrance. I was contacting the men on the various entrances to see how it could have happened, how he could have got in there. Is there such a thing as my correcting an error I made in my first deposition here?
Mr. Hubert.
Certainly; absolutely.
Captain TALBERT. I said in my first deposition, and I recall that after leaving, after my conversation with Chief Curry on the telephone that morning, I didn't talk to him again that day. And for some reason or other, I overlooked the fact that I did talk to him from the hospital. I talked to him twice, possibly three times. I called him, or rather was called by him at the hospital to find out what the condition of Oswald, the existing condition was, and then I called him back sometime during the middle of the operation when I got a report on it, and called back again to tell him the time of Oswald's death immediately after his death.
Mr. Hubert.
Did you speak to him about how the security had broken down during any of those three conversations?
Captain TALBERT. No, sir.
Mr. Hubert.
Did you see Patrick Dean, Sergeant Dean at Parkland?
Captain TALBERT. Yes, sir.
Mr. Hubert.
Did you speak to him?
Captain TALBERT. Yes, sir. As a matter of fact, he had assigned some of the men out there.
Mr. Hubert.
Did he say anything to you about what Ruby had told him as to how he had gotten into the basement?
Captain TALBERT. Yes, sir. That was the first information that I had received on how Ruby said he got into the basement, was from Dean.
Mr. Hubert.
I think you said that you spoke to Vaughn and Jez who were respectively at the Main Street and Commerce Street entrances?
Captain TALBERT. Yes.
Mr. Hubert.
When you spoke to Dean, was that before or after you had spoken to Vaughn?
Captain TALBERT. As I recall my contact--I had many contacts with Vaughn regarding, as you may well know, and as I recall that contact, it was after, because I was being rather dogmatic about who was around that entrance with Vaughn at the time. As I recall it, I may be in error here, it might have been after. I mean, it might have been prior to my contact with Dean, and then subsequent contact with Vaughn.
Mr. Hubert.
When you first talked to Vaughn, let's put it this way, did you know that Ruby claimed to have come through the entrance that Vaughn was guarding?
Captain TALBERT. I would like to answer you positively, Mr. Hubert, but I can't. It was the first or second contact. It possibly was the second, but I think it was the first. I believe it was the first.
Mr. Hubert.
Well, the conversation you had with Dean where he told you what Ruby had said about how he entered, was at the hospital site?
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