Mrs. Cheek.

don't know how I could, because I don't know Jack Ruby or Oswald Very well. In fact, I didn't know Oswald at all, and I didn't know Ruby well enough to help you.

Mr. Griffin.

Well, any little bit that we can learn can be helpful to us. But I would like to set it up in a way that wouldn't interfere with your problems at home. I think they are substantial. Why don't you name the day and the time.

Mrs. Cheek.

I Can't name the date and the time. I don't know. I didn't expect my daughter to be ill when she was. I only thought she was going to the hospital two days.
I work in real estate. I don't know when I have appointments, and I am trying to sell the place on Hillcrest. I have an appointment this afternoon with the minister out there or one of the men of the church, not the minister, but to try to sell Hillcrest.

Mr. Griffin.

Well, the mornings, I take it, are better for you than the afternoons? Why don't we make it Monday morning. If 9 o'clock, isn't too early for you, we will start at 9.

Mrs. Cheek.

How much longer do you think it would take on this?

Mr. Griffin.

I don't think it would take more than a half hour, but' sometimes it takes time to have you sit here and read through these statements and point out any corrections or changes or additions that you would have to make, and it could take half an hour to an hour, especially if we get these ph9tographs of the records.
Then we can clarify these on these records. Do you remember which apartment it was that the Cubans lived in?

Mrs. Cheek.

That was 5212 Gaston. I think the front room.

Mr. Griffin.

Maybe if we could just get those records copied. I)o you remember what year it was that they--you believe it was 1959 or 1960, when you went through those records with the agents? Were you able to pinpoint those to Cubans who you had there?

Mrs. Cheek.

No. I don't think so. They were looking at the names.

Mr. Griffin.

So I suppose it would be best if we just got the records since, say, January 1, 1958 to make sure we cover everything, and that would be 1958 through 1961.

Mrs. Cheek.

I think so. That is when I sold the place.

Mr. Griffin.

Well, up until the sale. Now, do you recall if these two men ever came back and lived in any other place that you owned?

Mrs. Cheek.

I wouldn't know, because I told you I had managers in my apartment houses and my rooming houses. They did the renting.

Mr. Griffin.

I see.

Mrs. Cheek.

Sometimes I rented to people, but----

Mr. Griffin.

If we started with January 1, 1958 and got all the records up to the present, how many records, how high a stack of records would we be talking about?

Mrs. Cheek.

I don't know how high.

Mr. Griffin.

How many different apartments would we be talking about since January 1958?

Mrs. Cheek.

I would just have to go back and look, because I buy and sell all the time and trade.

Mr. Griffin.

Would it be as many as 10?

Mrs. Cheek.

Could have been more than that.

Mr. Griffin.

Could it have been more than that?

Mrs. CHEEK. Yes. Not places, but apartments. See, I had a 32-unit in Oak Cliff, and there was 46 in the Beachcomber Apartments. Then there was people that rented on Gaston Avenue, but see, I just traded back and forth.

Mr. Griffin.

How many different buildings did you own since 1958?

Mrs. Cheek.

I really don't know. You'd just have to go down at the courthouse and look. I would have to figure it out. 3518 Gillespie, I sold it though.

Mr. Griffin.

Maybe what we should do is take 1958 to 1961, and then simply the year 1963, so that we will take 1958 to 1961, for that Gaston building, and we will take 1963 for all these buildings. How many buildings did you own last year, in 1963?