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Warren Commission Hearings: Vol. XIII - Page 269« Previous | Next »

(Testimony of Vernon S. Smart)

Mr. Griffin.
Okay. That is why I asked you.
Mr. Smart.
Sunday, wasn't it?
Mr. Griffin.
That is why I asked you.
Mr. Smart.
Sunday.
Mr. Griffin.
Okay.
Mr. Smart.
I am speaking of Sunday, the day they moved him, now.
Mr. Griffin.
All right.
Mr. Smart.
Saturday, I didn't do anything.
Mr. Griffin.
Now, before you came to work on Sunday, had you heard anything, even by way of rumor, with respect to the fact that Oswald might be moved that day?
Mr. Smart.
That was when?
Mr. Griffin.
Came to work--before you arrived at work on Sunday morning.
Mr. Griffin.
All right. Now, where was Stevenson when he talked to you about having your men ready?
Mr. Smart.
In his office.
Mr. Griffin.
And were-you personally there or did you receive this by telephone?
Mr. Smart.
I received it from him.
Mr. Griffin.
And did you have any discussion with him at that time----
Mr. Smart.
No, sir.
Mr. Griffin.
About the moving?
Mr. Smart.
No, sir; he said have the men stand by and he would notify me when to have them report to the basement.
Mr. Griffin.
About how long was this before Oswald was actually moved, would you estimate?
Mr. Smart.
I couldn't say for sure, but I think I must have talked to him between--it must have been around 9 o'clock in the morning or maybe earlier. I am not sure. I didn't make a note of the time.
Mr. Griffin.
And were there other department heads or bureau heads in there at the time that you got this information?
Mr. Smart.
In and out.
Mr. Griffin.
Do you have any information as to whether Stevenson made a general request to all bureaus to have their men stand by or was this just specifically directed toward you?
Mr. Smart.
I think it was general.
Mr. Griffin.
That is, do you have any confirmation of that, have you talked to other bureau heads, for example, to find out?
Mr. Smart.
Captain Jones.
Mr. Griffin.
What bureau is he connected with?
Mr. Smart.
Forgery.
Mr. Griffin.
What about the other bureau heads there? Did you talk to them?
Mr. Smart.
Captain Martin, we discussed it among ourselves about having our men stand by.
Mr. Griffin.
Now, when did you discuss it with those gentlemen?
Mr. Smart.
Shortly after I talked with Stevenson.
Mr. Griffin.
I see.
Mr. Smart.
It was general knowledge around that all of the men were supposed to stand by. You know how those things get out.
Mr. Griffin.
I see. I see. Now, when was the next time that you got any information about the movement of Lee Oswald?
Mr. Smart.
In the neighborhood of 11 o'clock, it could have been before or after a little bit, Chief Stevenson told me to have my men report to the basement.
Mr. Griffin.
Now, what did you do when you took your men down to the basement?
Mr. Smart.
I instructed the men to go down to the basement and I went with them.
Mr. Griffin.
Did you personally place these men----
Mr. Smart.
No, sir.
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