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Warren Commission Hearings: Vol. XIII - Page 220« Previous | Next »

(Testimony of Karen Bennett Carlin)

Mr. Hubert.
All right, do you have any other parts that you wish to change?
Mrs. Carlin.
Yes; the last sentence in the third paragraph.
Mr. Hubert.
Now you are speaking of the sentence which reads as follows, to wit: "Karen used her Texas driver's license as identification." What comments do you wish to make about that, Mrs. Carlin?
Mrs. Carlin.
It was a California driver's license.
Mr. Hubert.
All right, are there any other parts of that statement which are incorrect or need modification?
Mr. Jackson.
The fourth paragraph, first sentence which reads as follows: "At the time she talked with Ruby, Sunday morning, she asked him if the club was going to be open Sunday night. He became upset regarding this, then talked harshly to her, indicating that he did not feel she was showing the proper respect toward the deceased President."
Mr. Hubert.
What comment do you wish to make about that sentence?
Mrs. Carlin.
It was not Sunday that he said anything about the President. It was Saturday night that he talked real harshly regarding the President.
Mr. Hubert.
Do I understand you to say then that when you spoke to him on Sunday morning, that the subject of the President was not mentioned at all?
Mrs. Carlin.
That's right. He just sounded preoccupied and upset.
Mr. Jackson.
That was on Sunday that he sounded preoccupied?
Mrs. Carlin.
Yes; he sounded distant. In other words, I called him back twice.
Mr. Hubert.
You called him back twice on Sunday?
Mrs. Carlin.
Yes; I am talking about when he was talking to me. I would say, "Jack, are you still there?" Or "Jack," to get his attention back. He seemed like he was busy.
Mr. Hubert.
I gather from that that when you would speak to him on the phone, you didn't get a response, so it gave you the impression that he wasn't there?
Mrs. Carlin.
Yes.
Mr. Hubert.
So you would repeat your question?
Mrs. Carlin.
Yes.
Mr. Hubert.
Are there any other parts of this statement that you would like to make any comments about?
Mrs. Carlin.
No.
Mr. Hubert.
Do I understand that other than the corrections that have been made, that this statement contains the truth, so far as you know it?
Mrs. Carlin.
Yes.
Mr. Hubert.
Is there anything you think should be deleted from it?
Mrs. Carlin.
No.
Mr. Hubert.
Now Mrs. Carlin, is there anything else you would like to say about any aspect that we have been talking about, or any fact that you might know that you have not heretofore stated to anyone?
Mrs. Carlin.
Nothing that I can think of.
Mr. Jackson.
Excuse me just a minute.
(Mr. Jackson and witness whisper to each other.)
Mr. Hubert.
May I see you a minute, Mr. Jackson?
(Mr. Jackson and Mr. Hubert confer off the record.)
Mr. Hubert.
One more question, Mrs. Carlin. Did anyone ask you or suggest to you, directly or indirectly, that you make this call on Sunday morning to Mr. Ruby, or is it that you made this call for the purpose which you have already stated?
Mrs. Carlin.
The purpose of the call was for which I have already stated.
Mr. Hubert.
No one suggested that you make it?
Mrs. Carlin.
Jack told me to call him the following day.
Mr. Hubert.
But other than Jack no one else did?
Mrs. Carlin.
No.
Mr. Hubert.
All right, Ma'am, I think that is all.
Mrs. Carlin.
There is one thing I would like to clear up, what I said a while ago. A while ago you asked me did Jack Ruby make a pass. It was not a pass, It was just asking me. It was not kissing or anything like that.
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