Mr. Hubert.

So, you can say to me now that you really did not know the planned route ?
Captain JONES. I was not told, and I do not know for sure what route they were going to take. I was aware of talk and some routing being planned.

Mr. Hubert.

Can you tell us when you first heard that Ruby was supposed to have come down the Main Street ramp?
Captain JONES. I don't remember; I don't understand that question, sir.

Mr. Hubert.

Let me put it this way; you have heard since that Ruby claims that he came down the Main Street ramp? Captain JONES. Yes, sir.

Mr. Hubert.

Do you remember when you first heard that ?
Captain JONES. When I first heard that it was probably as a result of me being in charge for the Police Department Committee investigating the operational security about that transfer, and why it broke down, and that heading that committee, I am sure that was passed to me by some of the officers who had talked to him following his arrest.

Mr. Hubert.

In other words, later, on the date of the 24th, or could it have been later than that ?
Captain JONES. If I heard it prior to that, or heard rumors, the first official knowledge that I do have would have been even following Thanksgiving Day, for that is the time I was called back from the vacation and called from vacation to head that investigation, and it was subsequent to that that we had our investigation.

Mr. Hubert.

So that if you heard anything about Ruby's version of how he got there, it would have been just passed on to you prior to going on your vacation? That is to say, you would have heard it from someone
Captain JONES. I would have heard it---or put out on the radio or newspapers or some source like that. I could have read that.

Mr. Hubert.

When did you go on vacation?
Captain JONES. I left here

Mr. Hubert.

That is Dallas?
Captain JONES. I left Dallas about 7:30 on Thanksgiving morning and got back in town at 8 o'clock that night. Drove to Shreveport, spent 4 or 5 hours with my father and ate lunch and came back. They called for me by the time I got there.

Mr. Hubert.

And you were not on the special committee to investigate security until that time?
Captain JONES. When I returned, went to Chief Stevenson's house that night. He told me what they had in mind. I reported for that the morning following Thanksgiving, Friday morning.

Mr. Hubert.

Now, Captain, is there anything else you want to state concerning the facts, in your deposition this morning?
Captain JONES. I can think of no other at this time, Mr. Hubert. I only wish there was some definite facts I could give you, and wish I could have been more definite in my answers, but I can think of no other right now. We have covered the situation pretty thoroughly.

Mr. Hubert.

Now, have you been interviewed by any member of the Commission, other than myself?
Captain JONES. No, sir; I'm sure I haven't. I mean I would remember that.

Mr. Hubert.

I mean, you have been interviewed by me prior to the commencement of this deposition, isn't that correct?
Captain JONES. We went over the details briefly a while ago; yes, sir.

Mr. Hubert.

And that was this morning? Captain JONES. That was this morning; yes, sir.

Mr. Hubert.

Now, can you tell me whether you observed any inconsistencies between the interview that you had with me this morning and your testimony in this deposition ?
Captain JONES. I am not aware of any, sir.

Mr. Hubert.

Have you provided any material information in that interview with me this morning which has not been talked about in the record of this deposition today?

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