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Warren Commission Hearings: Vol. XII - Page 441« Previous | Next »

(Testimony of Patrick Trevore Dean)

Mr. Griffin.
But you knew them to talk to?
Mr. Dean.
To speak only. The people that were in the trial, well, George Senator, I didn't know his name. I couldn't place it--knew the face but I didn't know his name until the trial, and he was a bartender regularly at the club.
Mr. Griffin.
Now, was he the bartender there on a regular basis in 1960 or 1961?
Mr. Dean.
Yes, sir. He was a regular there all the time that I worked there, or worked in that area.
Mr. Griffin.
Who else did you recognize at the trial whom you remember from the Carousel Club?
Mr. Dean.
I don't believe I recognized anyone, other than this fellow George Senator.
Mr. Griffin.
Was there a Negro man named Andy Armstrong that testified at the trial ?
Mr. Dean.
I don't know. I don't know Andy Armstrong.
Mr. Griffin.
He is one of Ruby's workers there. Okay. Anything else in there that [indicating]--
Mr. Dean.
Well, I would like for the record to show that my visits while off duty to the Carousel was definitely an exception rather than rule, and it would usually be when out-of-town people would come to town, and this, by my working in that area, had gone in there frequently on duty, I knew---or there had never been any trouble in there, to my knowledge, as far as fights and such as that. I knew it was a safe place for an off-duty officer to go, and interesting to someone that hadn't seen it. So this is the exception that I went there. I recall now, by reading this investigation by the FBI, that soon after I had left the basement after this shooting, or left the immediate area where Oswald was laying, I do recall now asking R. C. Nelson, that was stationed at that doorway, had he come in that way, and he then stated he was positive he hadn't. This was reflected in this--I do remember. I wanted it to show that I do remember now, after reading that.
Mr. Griffin.
Now, let me stop you here, Sergeant.
Mr. Dean.
All right.
Mr. Griffin.
Let me direct your attention to one portion of that report Have you read that portion of the report which deals with this lengthy discussion that you and I had about the talk, the one talk you had with Ruby on the date

that Ruby shot Oswald; have you read that portion of the report?
Mr. Dean.
In the FBI report?
Mr. Griffin.
Yes.
Mr. Dean.
Let's see. I don't recall reading it. You mean now have I read it?
Mr. Griffin.
Yes. Have you just read it?
Mr. Dean.
No; I haven't read it.
Mr. Griffin.
Would you find that, or I can maybe find it for you quicker, but would you find that portion in there and would you read that and tell me if that reports everything that you learned from Ruby at that time ?
Mr. Dean.
If it's included in this report [indicating].
Mr. Griffin.
Yes. And I don't have simply reference to the discussion about entering the basement, but if it reports everything of importance that he told you during that interview?
Mr. Dean.
I believe that this February 18 report would--the FBI report doesn't include it has the questions that I asked of Ruby and not of Sorrels, if that's what you mean,, it does. But this February 18 report is what [indicating].
Mr. Griffin.
Let me hand you, then, what I have marked for identification as Exhibit 5010. It's a copy of a letter signed by you, dated February 18, 1964, addressed to Mr. J. E. Curry, chief of police. Did you prepare that letter?
Mr. Dean.
Yes; I did [indicating].
Mr. Griffin.
And let me ask you this, is that a true and accurate copy of the actual original letter that you. sent?
Mr. Dean.
That's a copy I made myself, a Xerox copy [indicating].
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