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Warren Commission Hearings: Vol. XII - Page 438« Previous | Next »

(Testimony of Patrick Trevore Dean)

Okay, when I read that I was mistaken as to where I thought he was standing, so that I was under the impression he was pulled off of his post, but that would entirely consistent. Apparently all they did was to move him a few feet. Well, the jail office window, you have three here. One, two, and three windows--so [indicating]. Well now, did you talk with Bobby Patterson at all?

Mr. Dean.
Yes, sir; I asked him could he say for sure that this man didn't come in his post.
Mr. Griffin.
And when did you talk with him ?
Mr. Dean.
Some time before I went to the hospital.
Mr. Griffin.
Did you talk with a reserve officer by the name of Newman?
Mr. Dean.
I don't recall the name.
Mr. Griffin.
Did you talk with this reserve officer who was stationed over in this area here, as you have indicated on the map [indicating] ?
Mr. Dean.
I asked Sergeant Putnam--in fact, we had talked during the day about this man, whether to keep him or not, and I said definitely keep him there, tell him to remain there. Now, I don't recall talking to this man specifically about seeing if anyone had come through here. I was fairly certain that they hadn't. The main thing I was thinking about was that Ruby told me he came in here. I had no reason to doubt him, but I didn't know how he had gotten in, other than what he had said, just walking down, and I knew that this was putting R. E. Vaughn in dereliction of his duty.
Mr. Griffin.
Well, now; it's my understanding you talked with Patterson before you went to Parkland Hospital?
Mr. Dean.
Yes, sir.
Mr. Griffin.
And you talked with Vaughn and Nelson after you went to Parkland ?
Mr. Dean.
Well, I probably asked all of them the question, "Did you see this man come in here; do you know him?" And, of course, Vaughn said he knew him, Patterson said he knew him. I don't recall whether Nelson said he knew him or not, but that Patterson and Vaughn both stated, and along with Nelson, that he did not come through their post.
Mr. Griffin.
Now, did you talk with any of the other men who were stationed down there in the basement?
Mr. Dean.
No, sir; these were the men that I assigned and gave my instructions, and those were the ones that I could talk to.
Mr. Griffin.
Do you remember, on November 24, talking at all with "Blackie" Harrison?
Mr. Dean.
No, sir.
Mr. Griffin.
About this?
Mr. Dean.
No, Sir.
Mr. Griffin.
How about L. D. Miller?
Mr. Dean.
No, sir.
Mr. Griffin.
How about McMillon?
Mr. Dean.
No, sir.
Mr. Griffin.
Now, you saw McMillon and, as I understand-
Mr. Dean.
He was with Jack Ruby when we interviewed him up in the jail.
Mr. Griffin.
Yes.
Mr. Dean.
And he asked no questions. I am sure that he stood there and listened, as an interested party, or
Mr. Griffin.
How about Bob Lowery?
Mr. Dean.
No, sir; I didn't talk to him.
Mr. Griffin.
Now, after you had passed this information on to Pierce, as I recall, you said that you thought you might have talked with Vaughn some time that afternoon?
Mr. Dean.
Yes, sir.
Mr. Griffin.
Do you remember anything else you did that afternoon besides possibly talking with Vaughn ?
Mr. Dean.
Not anything else particularly, other than asking Nelson and Patterson, along with Vaughn, separately, rather, or individually, that I did ask them did this man come by them, and they said no.
Mr. Griffin.
By the time you left work that day, had any instructions been given with respect to preparing reports as to what happened ?
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