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Warren Commission Hearings: Vol. XII - Page 407« Previous | Next »

(Testimony of Barnard S. Clardy)

Mr. Hubert.
Was your acquaintance with him such that you would recognize him immediately upon seeing him?
Mr. Clardy.
Yes, sir.
Mr. Hubert.
Would you recognize him in that way, whether he had a hat on, or a hat off?
Mr. Clardy.
I know the man well enough if I caught a glimpse of him I should recognize him; yes, sir.
Mr. Hubert.
All right. Now, I am going to mark a chart of the basement area of the Dallas Police Department, as follows, to wit: "Dallas, Texas, March 24, 1964, Exhibit 5064. Deposition of B. S. Clardy," under which I am signing my name. For the purposes of identification, however, before I move to that, I want to ask you concerning documents 5061, 5062, and 5063, previously identified, which I now hand you again.
Mr. Clardy.
Yes, sir.
Mr. Hubert.
Ask you if there are any other corrections you wish to make
Mr. Clardy.
No, sir.
Mr. Hubert.
With reference to the documents?
Mr. Clardy.
No, sir.
Mr. Hubert.
Does the information contained in those documents represent the truth, so far as you know ?
Mr. Clardy.
Yes, sir; I do.
Mr. Hubert.
Any modifications or changes or deletions that you would like to make?
Mr. Clardy.
I don't believe there is, sir.
Mr. Hubert.
Anything omitted, that you know of?
Mr. Clardy.
Sir, the only thing that is not in there that I know anything about is possibly some of these people that come in and talk to him after we took him upstairs, which nobody that made any of these investigations asked me about.
Mr. Hubert.
All right. I will get to that later, but with the exception of these omissions that 'you just mentioned, and to which I will come back at a later time, these documents represent the truth? There is no deletion and

nothing more to add other than that other matter we have been talking about?
Mr. Clardy.
Yes, sir.
Mr. Hubert.
I'll ask you to put your name under my signature where it appears, and your initials under my initials where they appear on each of the documents. Right there.
Mr. Clardy.
Right under here?
Mr. Hubert.
Yes. Just--now, we'll be using this chart later on, which has been marked 5064, and I have signed it, and I will ask you, for the purposes of identification, to put your signature under mine on that one,. too. Now, these documents have been corrected, I understand, that it was simply closer to 10 o'clock than to 11 that you received
Mr. Clardy.
Closer to 11 than 10.
Mr. Hubert.
I beg your pardon. Closer to 11 than to 10 when you received certain instructions from Lieutenant Smart, is that correct?
Mr. Clardy.
Yes, sir.
Mr. Hubert.
Were these instructions the first connection that you had with the movement of Oswald?
Mr. Clardy.
We had been told earlier that morning, approximately---come on duty at 7 o'clock, and was---and was told to stay in the office. Now, that
Mr. Hubert.
In other words, your normal tour began at 7, but you were told to stay in the office?
Mr. Clardy.
Was told to stay in the office, that we would have to move the prisoner.
Mr. Hubert.
Who told you that?
Mr. Clardy.
Lieutenant Smart.
Mr. Hubert.
Did he tell you anything about 'how the prisoner was going to be moved, or at what time ?
Mr. Clardy.
I Was under the impression that he didn't know what time or how, hisself, at the time.
Mr. Hubert.
What caused you to form that impression ?
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