Mr. Hubert.

volume, Commission Document 81-A, page 70, the signed statement by Mr. Mayo. Mr. Mayo, do you have anything more to add? Anything new that has not been brought up in either this deposition or these two Exhibits, 5111 and 51127

Mr. Mayo.

Well, could you cut this off a minute and let's talk about it and see ?

Mr. Hubert.

All right. (Discussion off the record. )

Mr. Hubert.

Let the record show that Mr. Mayo wanted to acquaint me with the general nature of another matter, but that after he had spoken a few sentences, it became apparent to me that it should be a matter of record, so, I will ask you now, Mr. Mayo, just simply to repeat what you have said to me in the last few sentences off the record.

Mr. Mayo.

The first individual that tried to gain entrance into the basement said that he was a minister and he had a small book in his hand and I asked him what his business was. He said he wanted to go see Lee Harvey Oswald, that he was a friend of his, a minister that was supposed to help him, and he needed him, and he needed to go down there, and I told him "No, he could not enter without"--now, that is when I was on the Commerce Street side, and he hung around the entrance for some 20 minutes, I think, and he kept looking in the basement and acted very peculiar, but finally he left within about 20 minutes. He was tall, skinny, looked like over 6 feet tall, and looked like he was a man between 55 and 60.

Mr. Hubert.

How was he dressed?

Mr. Mayo.

He had on a suit. I don't recall the color of it, but it was Just a suit, business suit with a necktie.

Mr. Hubert.

Did he have a hat?

Mr. Mayo.

Yes, sir; he had a hat on.

Mr. Hubert.

And a coat?

Mr. Mayo.

I--yes.

Mr. Hubert.

A top coat?

Mr. Mayo.

I don't believe that he had on-

Mr. Hubert.

Regular coat, suit coat, not an overcoat?

Mr. Mayo.

Yes, sir.

Mr. Hubert.

Now, you say you reported the fact to the

Mr. Mayo.

I mentioned that to Jack Revill, and they said, well, it was probably just like lots of people trying to gain entrance. They didn't think it had much value.

Mr. Hubert.

And he suggested that it be left out of your report?

Mr. Mayo.

Yes.

Mr. Hubert.

Is there anything else?

Mr. Mayo.

When I changed positions--stations, and went from Commerce Street to the Main Street side, about 10 minutes after Oswald had been placed in the ambulance, I cleared the way for them to get out of the entrance.

Mr. Hubert.

Yes.

Mr. Mayo.

I went to the other side, and a large gentleman, well, he was slightly bald, weighed over 200 pounds, and walked with a limp. He came up to me and then said that he was a roommate of Jack Ruby, and that he wanted to go down and talk to him. And I told him he could not enter. I asked him what was the nature of his business and he said that Mr. Ruby had quite a sum of money on his person and he wanted to go down there and see if he wanted him to handle it for him. I told him he couldn't go down and he stayed up around there about 20 or 30 minutes, and finally went on down Main Street.

Mr. Hubert.

Did he give you his name?

Mr. Mayo.

I didn't ask him his name. He didn't give me his name. I told him he couldn't enter--and he walked with a limp. I remember that. He was a large fellow.. Had no tie on and slightly bald. No hat on.

Mr. Hubert.

And he claimed to be a roommate of Jack Ruby ?

Mr. Mayo.

Jack Ruby ;. yes, sir.

Mr. Hubert.

Could you describe him otherwise, his hair, his height

Mr. Mayo.

I'd say he was over 6 feet tall, and much heavier than I am.

Mr. Hubert.

You have given all that information, I think. Did he have a coat on?