Mr. Griffin.

down that ramp, you or any other officer with vision like yourself would have been able to recognize that person coming down the ramp?

Mr. Harrison.

I don't know whether you could have recognized him or not due to the fact that you were looking into sunlight.

Mr. Griffin.

Well, that is the north side of the building.

Mr. Harrison.

That is on the north side of the building, but it was very bright that day.

Mr. Griffin.

But you also had floodlights down in the basement?

Mr. Harrison.

That is right.

Mr. Griffin.

It was bright in the basement?

Mr. Harrison.

That is right.

Mr. Griffin.

Your eyes would be accustomed to those bright lights?

Mr. Harrison.

A man coming down, if he got close to you, you could recognize him, but just a man in a suit walking down that ramp, it would have been hard to recognize. I will put it that way.

Mr. Griffin.

Well, would a man walking down from the Main Street side have been any more difficult to recognize than a man that was standing up in the position that Captain Butler was or Assistant Chief Batchelor was?

Mr. Harrison.

Batchelor and Butler, Lieutenant Butler.

Mr. Griffin.

Would it have been any more difficult to recognize a man coming down the Main Street ramp than it would those two men coming up the Commerce Street ramp?

Mr. Harrison.

Yes; I believe it would have been, due to the glare in your face.

Mr. Griffin.

Now, were you keeping an eye out generally for people, news people, who might try to drift over into that area, and by "that area," I am referring to the area along the Main Street ramp, across the Main Street ramp?

Mr. Harrison.

Would you ask that question again?

Mr. Griffin.

Yes.

Mr. Harrison.

And point out there, please.

Mr. Griffin.

Yes. I am referring to the area that goes directly across the Main Street ramp down to the base of the ramp. That area, as I understand it, was supposed to be kept clear. Were you keeping an eye out to make sure that people didn't congregate in there?

Mr. Harrison.

There was several officers in this area right in here. I don't know the names of them. I couldn't spot any of them for you. There was one newsman, who had a microphone, immediately to my right.

Mr. Griffin.

Now, your right as you faced in what direction?

Mr. Harrison.

As I was facing south.

Mr. Griffin.

That would be toward Commerce Street?

Mr. Harrison.

Right.

Mr. Griffin.

At what point was there a man there ?

Mr. Harrison.

He was even with me.

Mr. Griffin.

I mean at what time

Mr. Harrison.

Oh.

Mr. Griffin.

In this series of events.

Mr. Harrison.

He was in that general area all of the time.

Mr. Griffin.

Now, did you keep an eye on him?

Mr. Harrison.

No. I wasn't particularly watching him.

Mr. Griffin.

Were there any other news people who were there in that area?

Mr. Harrison.

There was a Japanese photographer on my left, immediately to my left.

Mr. Griffin.

Now, this Officer Harrison, this position that you have marked here as the initial position, is that also approximately the position you were standing at the time that Oswald walked out ?

Mr. Harrison.

Yes.

Mr. Griffin.

All right. So that, when you say on your left there, are you talking about at the time that Oswald actually walked out, that is where that Japanese photographer, newsman, was?

Mr. Harrison.

Yes.

Mr. Griffin.

All right. Put an "X," if you would, put a small "J" on that