Mr. Beaty.

Man, they were everywhere down there. And the armored car backed down this ramp.

Mr. Griffin.

Commerce Street?

Mr. Beaty.

Commerce Street ramp. And there were people with cameras on the Main Street ramp back over here, back behind this 55-foot entrance to the garage. They were everywhere.

Mr. Griffin.

Was there some sort of floodlights set up in connection with the TV cameras ?

Mr. Beaty.

I am sure there were. They were awful bright. I don't know whether they were hooked onto the cameras or something. They brought in this material, but the best I remember, there was a bunch of them over in this area.

Mr. Griffin.

Behind the camera?

Mr. Beaty.

Well, not necessarily. They could have been under or over. You couldn't hardly tell.

Mr. Griffin.

Now, at the time that the armored car came down the ramp, did you see what happened around that armored car ?

Mr. Beaty.

Like what now?

Mr. Griffin.

Did you see anything that happened?

Mr. Beaty.

Mr. Griffin.

You saw the armored car come down ?

Mr. Beaty.

It took them quite a while to get the armored car down.

Mr. Griffin.

Did you actually see it come down?

Mr. Beaty.

Not the whole time.

Mr. Griffin.

As you looked up toward that armored car, were you able to see people around that armored car from where you were standing?

Mr. Beaty.

Well, tell me when you are talking about?

Mr. Griffin.

At anytime.

Mr. Beaty.

It took it about 5 minutes to back down, because it was too tight for the ramp, and they didn't get it all the way in there. They were very, very cautious and careful, and it parked up the ramp, and I don't remember seeing anybody around.

Mr. Griffin.

Do you recall Chief Batchelor coming down into the basement and going up to the armored car ?

Mr. Beaty.

No, sir; I don't.

Mr. Griffin.

Do you recall any police officers up in the area of the armored car?

Mr. Beaty.

No, sir; I don't.

Mr. Griffin.

Now, do you recall whether there was an officer--did you see an officer stationed up at the top of the Main Street ramp?

Mr. Beaty.

No, sir; I couldn't see that way.

Mr. Griffin.

Is that because of the police that were stationed that you didn't have a straight view of the ramp?

Mr. Beaty.

Yes, sir.

Mr. Griffin.

Now, as you looked over in this direction over here, could you see any police officers over in there? The place that I am indicating is in the direction of the Main Street ramp. Did you see any police officers?

Mr. Beaty.

Yes, sir; some of those officers I mentioned, I don't remember exactly how they were stationed, which ones. The plainclothes officers were standing on this side here.

Mr. Griffin.

Could you tell us--I am not asking you who you subsequently learned was over there, but who you actually remember seeing in that line?

Mr. Beaty.

I don't know. I couldn't tell you. The only reason I could on this report I made, I remember who all was down there. That I could remember. And I remember one was on our side, and I assumed the others were on the other side.

Mr. Griffin.

Now, as you look over here toward the TV cameras--

Mr. Beaty.

I am not looking over there much.

Mr. Griffin.

If, when you did on occasions look over there, could you see people around the TV cameras

Mr. Beaty.

Yes.

Mr. Griffin.

Did you have any trouble distinguishing their faces ?

Mr. Griffin.

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